From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt1-x833.google.com (mail-qt1-x833.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::833]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 629F93CB41 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 15:49:10 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt1-x833.google.com with SMTP id d75a77b69052e-427826013fcso3020601cf.3 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 12:49:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1703018950; x=1703623750; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version:from :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=H2TzefN/uyaCGbw0NlFmhOyR6UL8QuyQ3p2HwuEZb3Y=; b=d+pwYZGH0ilqSMwaH/1jPYApwR5jNOQJQi1cXI8v4KVN7aHCddkH+9BuT/U4ZAJHEc WBjB8AIr8pKLnGoDFz/PFwNH3y3nHgIDz09wN2uU+yp3C11MqXQlzqj6JCLmlxFHVtd6 mL0LaltWfR9/X/3r2LglbzZkZnciqF6lTxzY2DuCDaJqUHMiGk8te1WptTuPQqJNMZ1v a7Eql3aFWVfSqh0L0I95nK4o498UYuSJ4A/u+dudfavMXkdV0P9oxWVRwb1ajvDDVPGb iUCO/GsiS3PE6ZgKMWKKrXTF/9XRmthiO4uJenmxhKBFe+Lr0Bft41xdvM5BYUKXLxHY 0G8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1703018950; x=1703623750; h=message-id:in-reply-to:to:references:date:subject:mime-version:from :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=H2TzefN/uyaCGbw0NlFmhOyR6UL8QuyQ3p2HwuEZb3Y=; b=aIEhCqqEdF7omX6XNGvIHm4LtbaE7ntza0FNT68votZ+BDFDJ8KK1l2hCcrmJLK0Ql SXT2VC2kOMtXHx2XB3nU4RroFvoA21zpmQqIIYk5Pq5msmtA4JAjnYOlrDvzx1dpCGB8 9/Ti9xdKwKBZZivGE4maO73L3yBFlyEtpDJEiOxi6EZuuy8ro8E/BG30vyIb2vzFN+8z X+AcecGL9GdEX4iopIKM+tBs0BCSNoogiZ1YfU89WftEnFstnqciousrX5wuHaooZmy1 47yuZGIA5+Keht20K3tGgZ0bNYt1I59tk1d/FmGc8W9PeGqUlg1xB1zhuXyII5MDIx+c OYLg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzvCqnJUqIH9e+MrRH4YKAqbYTdwpxe9NBLVSNQVMJBFZJTqp4Q wLpZaTkj9morfeE//tocbSSuvyBRScA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGwoWVmM9SfR5epuAX6noJ60LETAwkXNJEyuv2275OJmY3aOofdhTsWctIgAGJ12EDra2VaEw== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5d8d:0:b0:423:77e2:6fb6 with SMTP id d13-20020ac85d8d000000b0042377e26fb6mr29979573qtx.30.1703018949650; Tue, 19 Dec 2023 12:49:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([198.55.239.10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p18-20020ac84612000000b00423e77c96adsm10476405qtn.94.2023.12.19.12.49.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Dec 2023 12:49:07 -0800 (PST) From: Rich Brown Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_1F9BEEF7-1D36-425A-8F27-F876E8460478" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.4\)) Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 15:49:06 -0500 References: <02cc2879-ef99-4388-bc1e-335a4aaff6aa@gmail.com> <18A40E71-F636-41A9-A8A7-0F4F69E3C99F@gmx.de> <650s1558-6310-063q-s5q2-o782rnnoss29@ynat.uz> <471154o6-no08-67or-p1o2-np919ro26osp@ynat.uz> <05ef1cd50d0e0a681b2cd38b1bdeb0a9@rjmcmahon.com> <4p61qp8r-p1p1-r83r-n283-315548o163po@ynat.uz> <045p54s4-r8p3-o2s7-7qq2-r2p6o28ss7q1@ynat.uz> To: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <91B34F49-D567-4ED2-84CC-EFDBF9895725@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.4) Subject: Re: [NNagain] detecting GPT-generated text X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 20:49:10 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_1F9BEEF7-1D36-425A-8F27-F876E8460478 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sorry, OT: but I couldn't resist... > On Dec 19, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink = wrote: >=20 > I asked a few persons around how could one identify GPT-generated = text?=20 I recently heard a radio interview with a college professor who was = changing his assignments (especially the standard 30-page paper) in the = face of ChatGPT. His (semi-humorous) metric for detecting AI-generated = content was the lack of spelling or grammar errors... Rich PS He did have a serious plan: ask each student to give a 15-minute = presentation on the topic that would have been the subject of that 30 = page paper. It takes the same time (or less!) to assess the work, and = gives a personal connection with the students...= --Apple-Mail=_1F9BEEF7-1D36-425A-8F27-F876E8460478 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Sorry, OT: but I couldn't resist...

On Dec = 19, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

I asked a few persons around how could one identify = GPT-generated text? 

I recently heard a radio interview with a = college professor who was changing his assignments (especially the = standard 30-page paper) in the face of ChatGPT. His (semi-humorous) = metric for detecting AI-generated content was the lack of spelling or = grammar errors...

Rich

PS He did have a serious plan: ask each student to give a = 15-minute presentation on the topic that would have been the subject of = that 30 page paper. It takes the same time (or less!) to assess the = work, and gives a personal connection with the = students...
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