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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Jack Haverty via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] upgrading old routers to modern, secure FOSS
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 12:01:51 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <94pn9o32-p3nn-44q2-5051-92oo4o52384q@ynat.uz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <af3ec710-93f7-4bad-a494-379fc3f542ef@3kitty.org>

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On Mon, 23 Oct 2023, Jack Haverty via Nnagain wrote:

> We discovered that most computers simply believed the latest ARP information 
> it received.   So it was easy for the Flakeway to insert itself into any IP 
> traffic flow and do its work, without any changes to software in any other 
> computer.  It was handy not only for testing but also for diagnosing all 
> sorts of problems, simply capturing the traffic flows for later analysis 
> (similar to wireshark).
>
> That was all done in the IPV4 world, 40+ years ago, so I'm not sure how it 
> might relate to today's Internet.   We reported this "feature" to IETF and 
> some IEEE 802.x committee as a likely vulnerability, but I'm not sure if 
> anything changed.

This is commonly used today for failover/load balancing

David Lang

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-23 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-23 17:04 Dave Taht
2023-10-23 17:43 ` le berger des photons
2023-10-23 17:46   ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-10-23 18:11     ` Dave Taht
2023-10-23 18:38       ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-10-24  5:34       ` Ignacio Ocampo
2023-10-24  5:39         ` Ignacio Ocampo
2023-10-24 12:10           ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-10-24  0:36   ` Dave Taht
2023-10-23 17:58 ` Dave Taht
2023-10-23 18:20   ` David Lang
2023-10-23 18:39   ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-23 18:53   ` Jack Haverty
2023-10-23 19:01     ` David Lang [this message]
2023-10-23 19:37     ` Karl Auerbach
2023-10-23 21:54       ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-23 23:22         ` Karl Auerbach
2023-10-23 23:39           ` David Lang
2023-10-24  0:13             ` Karl Auerbach
2023-10-24  5:16           ` Robert McMahon

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