From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tr22g11a.aset.psu.edu (tr22g11a.aset.psu.edu [128.118.146.136]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6ECE73B29D for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 08:50:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.150.73] (h92.120.232.68.dynamic.ip.windstream.net [68.232.120.92]) (authenticated bits=0) by tr22g11a.aset.psu.edu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id 421DoQlf009052 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 1 Mar 2024 08:50:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=psu.edu; s=authsmtp_2020; t=1709301027; bh=7YZYNvwQ5zVuBrIoKUEfNomZqQYFBOHw9YOe+iwThrk=; h=Date:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=bIxenN/O0itF494Uz54GTq9AM7WWnYkDoiktccuZ5w41d6nH/vb6IBCTHxvOUjewI BOXSZNnNrNmBsLoN5mpAT8sd6UNn5frnRTOmwPxLeno1AgSPAjTfXmOzSEc40d7s// MR9bzfRdOTybzs84SIBwAGanAo6AoalPwSJRg899uT7MPkc+VslgTROGhTJtZuGyVA 7WrIsoqHo+0hUlvFZiL2wNBHQicbwBZxZSaZp0fd6oTpySj9ipoofN7eND/0cYe3wl /5RQ7oqo6SFXhan3Wn99krZGxmvSnC+FAt9rwwTsbJPoIW4GsKFaGFmozu93gAhk1U iVRqGVvT7Zgsw== Message-ID: <9531f4a7-e077-643e-c371-a31a054d03de@thexlab.org> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 08:50:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Reply-To: sascha@thexlab.org Content-Language: en-US To: Dave Taht Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=c2=b4s_make_the_technical_aspe?= =?UTF-8?Q?cts_heard_this_time!?= References: <7d143d97-7b26-e324-f92e-f14cf8004816@thexlab.org> From: Sascha Meinrath In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: ACL 3728 matched, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (tr22g11a.aset.psu.edu [146.186.157.26]); Fri, 01 Mar 2024 08:50:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [NNagain] broadband measurement summit in DC March 7th X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 13:50:29 -0000 Hi Dave, Never got it unbricked, alas, but we did finish up the RadarToolkit.com firmware, and are currently winding our way through getting permissions to open source that software stack (the federal agency has given the o.k., and now we just need the lead NGO to get sign-off from its board). Radar is a fairly extensible Pi-based (and mobile-app-based) measurement tool that enables longitudinal data collection to document network reliability. We've already deployed hundreds of these devices across 4 states, and have documented real-time "rolling blackouts" on specific ISPs up in Alaska. Radar is also fairly seamless in terms of collecting info needed to make BEAD challenges (which is this month's hot issue) -- though I'm far more interested in collecting baseline intel prior to BEAD interventions (so that we can document meaningful impact). I remain quite perplexed on how NTIA plans to actually document the efficacy of their public investments. One of the biggest (rightful) critiques of the BTOP program was that there was no empirically-based assessment of what worked, and what didn't. 12 years later and NTIA appears hell-bent on making exactly the same mistake. Meanwhile, I'll be very keen to see how the Broadband Nutrition Label rollout goes -- starting next month, we *should* be able to do the first-ever, systematic comparative pricing analyses on a national scale (at least among the large-scale providers). --Sascha On 3/1/24 08:34, Dave Taht wrote: > On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 8:32 AM Sascha Meinrath wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'll be there! > > Did you ever get your wndr3800s to work? I could send you a box of a > few 25 dollar fq_codeled gl.inet boxes to anyone that needs ´em, > particularly those still stuck with DSL. I have also been encouraging > folk to run the waveform or speedtest.net tests on the conference > wifi.... >> >> --Sascha >> >> On 3/1/24 07:29, Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: >>> Anyone going to this? >>> >>> https://broadbandbreakfast.com/broadband-measurement-summit/ >>> >>> > > >