Re: [NNagain] FCC NOI due dec 1 on broadband speed standards

[Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>]

Hi Jack,


> On Nov 14, 2023, at 13:02, Jack Haverty via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> If video conferencing worked well enough, they would not have to all get together in one place and would instead hold IETF meetings online ...?

	[SM] Turns out that humans are social creatures, and some things work better face-to-face and in the hallway (and if that is only building trust and sympathy) than over any remote technology.


> Did anyone measure latency?   Does anyone measure throughput of "useful" traffic - e.g., excluding video/audio data that didn't arrive in time to be actually used on the screen or speaker?

	[SM] Utility is in the eye of the beholder, no?


> 
> Jack Haverty
> 
> 
> On 11/14/23 09:25, Vint Cerf via Nnagain wrote:
>> if they had not been all together they would have been consuming tons of video capacity doing video conference calls....
>> 
>> :-))
>> v
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 10:46 AM Livingood, Jason via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> On the subject of how much bandwidth does one household need, here's a fun stat for you.
>> 
>>  
>> At the IETF’s 118th meeting last week (Nov 4 – 10, 2023), there were over 1,000 engineers in attendance. At peak there were 870 devices connected to the WiFi network. Peak bandwidth usage:
>> 
>> 	• Downstream peak ~750 Mbps
>> 	• Upstream ~250 Mbps
>>  
>> From my pre-meeting Twitter poll (https://twitter.com/jlivingood/status/1720060429311901873):
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>> <image001.png>
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