[NNagain] Re: can I change the subject?

["David Bray, PhD" <david.a.bray@gmail.com>]

To Jason's point, it could just a hardware/software bug *or* it could be
your router has been pwned.
https://www.techopedia.com/antivirus/how-to-tell-if-someone-hacked-your-router-wifi

On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 10:44 AM Livingood, Jason via Nnagain <
nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Sounds like a bug in the software on the gateway device - you should
> contact the ISP to report it.
>
> From: le berger des photons via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Date: Friday, November 7, 2025 at 15:54
> To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard
> this time! <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
> Cc: le berger des photons <thejoff@gmail.com>
> Subject: [NNagain] Re: can I change the subject?
>
> apparently I was not clear.
>
> the < 10 mbps  with the box's wifi on,  and the 300 mbps with the box's
> wifi off refers to a speedtest between the two ubiquiti devices.  Nothing
> at all to do with the internet connection.
>
> I am 100% certain that nobody's cell phone was connected to my box.  I know
> this because of my remote location and complete lack of neighbors.  Only
> rodents and deer and wild pigs.  I'm not aware of any of them having cell
> phones.
>
> So please respond again now that I have hopefully cleared that up.
>
> thanks
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2025 at 2:58 PM Livingood, Jason via Nnagain <
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> > > conversation with the installers.  Because of that I forgot to turn off
> > the
> > > wifi on the box they'd delivered.
> > > The next day I configured a pair of ubnt devices to create a link.  Out
> > of
> > > habit, I did a speedtest.  Got less than 10 mbps instead of the usual
> 300
> > > mbps.
> >
> > It is quite common for ISPs to do this, especially when they also operate
> > a 5G network, as they broadcast a hidden SSID that a mobile phone will
> use
> > instead of 5G - carries offload onto WiFi about 80-90% of mobile data.
> For
> > example, you may but service from “ISP X” and you buy wireline service
> and
> > 5G mobile service and (via handset carrier settings) you handset will see
> > the hidden SSID and connect to that rather than the 5G network.
> >
> > That said, getting 10 Mbps vs 300 Mbps sounds like you are not correctly
> > provisioned in the network or having some other significant impairment -
> > and you should contact your ISP to fix it.
> >
> > > I turned off the wifi and my new link immediately showed the usual 300
> > > mbps.
> >
> > Sounds like some sort of misconfiguration or significant performance bug
> > in the gateway software. As noted above you should contact the ISP.
> >
> > > My theory is that they are using the wifi to constantly spy on the
> > > customer.  I'm figuring that they're using these microwave devices as
> > > optical cameras which can see through walls.
> >
> > Doubtful. You may want to be more concerned about the tracking that
> occurs
> > at the application layer and via mobile handset apps.
> >
> > JL
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