Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!
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From: "David Bray, PhD" <david.a.bray@gmail.com>
To: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
	heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	 bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] A good question - do you know how a toilet works?
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:03:53 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+aeVP-AZS9+8b3fca=YK=eLs=ECPpzr9YNETHv+R+wMn45G-Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6ykO8F-kuxcnhd3r=e_u8F4itjdEUzG=1VS3wbs+T99g@mail.gmail.com>

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Indeed and well said Dave Taht. I particularly like this quote on the
Structure of Scientific Revolutions that may apply here too:

“Newton's three laws of motion are less a product of novel experiments than
of the attempt to reinterpret well-known observations in terms of motions
and interactions of primary neutral corpuscles”
― Thomas S. Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
<https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1748176>

And lest we forget the humanness of our endeavor:

“Max Planck, surveying his own career in his Scientific Autobiography,
sadly remarked that “a new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing
its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its
opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar
with it.”
― Thomas S. Kuhn, The Structure of Scientific Revolutions
<https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1748176>

On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 3:28 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain <
nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Sometimes I liken this debate about the internet, to 1906-era
> partisans arguing about the right cures for syphilis. One side,
> intoning with great authority: "Tinctures of mercury, yes a good dose
> of mercury, is just what you need... " and the other side, insisting
> that "Leeches, leeches will help... all you need is a  good
> blood-letting... and everything will be fine..."
>
> While those few that had embraced germ theory and were pointing at
> little squiggly things in microscopes as the root causes of so much
> disease, were laughed at and ignored.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-04 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20231003205640.3.f99276b66eff3df4@mg-d1.substack.com>
2023-10-04 18:46   ` Dave Taht
2023-10-04 19:14     ` David Lang
2023-10-04 19:28       ` Dave Taht
2023-10-04 19:40         ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-04 19:46           ` Dave Taht
2023-10-04 19:55             ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-04 19:58           ` Dick Roy
2023-10-04 20:03         ` David Bray, PhD [this message]
2023-10-05  3:22         ` le berger des photons

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