From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x102c.google.com (mail-pj1-x102c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A92453CB37 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2024 08:09:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pj1-x102c.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-29026523507so449227a91.0 for ; Wed, 07 Feb 2024 05:09:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1707311375; x=1707916175; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=brqeexwIrnxf8d0G1BOh03gGSXhw0CAI/Xf1PTwcMcw=; b=N3ZuBsUKi4JtkZAD8yPx2PQrNkvE9LoaHgwiscXq6oLbJZAN4iLJytIkXFu6juKCPm nhlyNYEo+U+S4g4mjxpU8NN4H9MaciEP45H24uPdGZOvXkAAx8QBI7bQL5WPLWEITIkq v8dfT7/FPG86dqDHXWoR76y/5tLmdrncJaciy5gBuySyUcFz/rkdq1hr5i3n/6TMCP9S SDSO+EQoaHmiD2Gl5eGqg/VEFkzTJyM9UlwM+EtK+3Sv2+dE2KDIujBHqH5YBGAByaGb /2uwzU7ag4V76oZVHaJmLCokAU3qWlD4P24fdyqEx864cwGkBz1VaUazf7Ras4pdUMJ2 616Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1707311375; x=1707916175; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=brqeexwIrnxf8d0G1BOh03gGSXhw0CAI/Xf1PTwcMcw=; b=cYfe7QYk328OhmldlhBJZfDEubk4Rn2qgsSW2pjAn8Xp0b9jIb32kLu5n0cN59/Whs J6NPvbiQyBktBHRqyvHWGanpGIUHbF7TgFKa1kTTPsaR62wqyB2W7OzPjyysFXJvcH1e uqb70T+8awWR5iF8uD45KkXOxu+H1kx37FOZ7Cset4+uC/cax2SSwAACAE1O3yEQofCk Z02J+6YrwEY+4l8ySrGPUvg2NTkwJ1SkW4LjvxVI3w9ne17S8/DiBx7Vy2En9sUmVy2y blUKQpiPtsFkNIfsqiEYU78q7M+6W5KJ/8Lj828cZWCJQSVBrCxQzyjuZThwfs5wg1R7 yq1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwBl4S4CDpcH/Ap3hxZhQFj/vDI03fRhFKOT6vxZMwrxX3AFrlv oZ4aRbf0KdYiyjV2dyjfJB89MIeFqpQvC2Rb7XI/EqqI+/LcplITMsNu4e3U+l5lErWdezUFw/b qRZI4UG+laQ/pa6Nf8uv0xNKEL6iSDoOkD6M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHPmu3xu67rRMTOt1ej7hJxQBPKUc0xMsBwKQzLdZX3T9n3lccOmCWmErbBfch7GuiGb0Klb1iM+VFIYrUzDbA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:ff05:b0:296:341b:a60 with SMTP id ce5-20020a17090aff0500b00296341b0a60mr2352681pjb.13.1707311375348; Wed, 07 Feb 2024 05:09:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 08:09:23 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [NNagain] tech feudalism X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2024 13:09:36 -0000 This discussion about withdrawing computers from the Danish school system made a lot of good points. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D39286269 I have sometimes been a bit frustrated by those that want to extend the internet into schools. I am all in favor of assistive technology (like flash cards! Duolingo!) but the rest... no. --=20 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos