From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x533.google.com (mail-pg1-x533.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::533]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A8133B29D for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 07:41:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pg1-x533.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-5bdfbd69bd5so4148091a12.1 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:41:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1699965710; x=1700570510; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=Bf5dOw4Q4IiGp6pZGTxttI/Zqmb5wqjDMHbqDbpJxaA=; b=Qtew7wzVi+UYGkt4C8RHhn0jTDgk3/nJfWxPgEPBCE5SqPdfLREWU6sLaCb/dQbed3 ST8Z0bCssgehbfDW+trGg6ApQF/rgAHdacjQAGXR59poj/JtAj2BQXXRwbq/C1cuqdrP +lnaOmUDIwrN9JnOa7kp//NeMO4IRYaljAgSTJVN/ZT5us0OKyVzQDY+AHt86b0bIOZ8 xnt9zX1OZyHim3jSY8PO9bQFsTUqsPbOacF5+ivERywZxZMhNYMzdpNcLBiBIKEPpztp XS9RHiySgLB6IvbdAWl/+OucKQY+AKPECfiA37PxQVp4EqSBeB2Jp56VAGiT5ynaxvFm AEvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1699965710; x=1700570510; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Bf5dOw4Q4IiGp6pZGTxttI/Zqmb5wqjDMHbqDbpJxaA=; b=Pzz7fulKrkh9NEvmF/aFDDeGL1uqgRDOzvCp+rL1yf1+ViXQC/83n6Ws/V6GY/nI5h SGeCml6MvO62Oq9X67TJTpwE0eJMVKp796KwprgjvpCHCbi4x3dTFjR3GQcfEUltL6Wl 3CW55+Fq3mm3tL1JyCpGNMvfnN44OK4GFuVFMFGUXB8NhrO9/DHC1nYli19Jurndlmdn uNP1XxsFsM9nOrfsTUGzaPg0u7oqThxZeSFSU6Lwgk7plv0/Hc4g4uq0V7LAOXwR12Ux w9BxeuWn5YYVxNVS0pcIjXKr8rpzTSdOVvdOSPb/xrsuxOiaLas6dKir/LpTHVANE74F O8VQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyncxYbdERAT9YvQSB9tgc+S6D709MVADt6uSYhBQWmQYclN2Bg CDJXnm6DD4PnmTol0/hpBD5CO7aG6EdivxAZb2mZhEHM3n0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG5t8y8B9PqEuT7eKJjqrsVNlZo/gbsNyt7dyOPyHthfCW8fJt+nPyyCvv21rf0Si5ZydiDpU7FGiWHWuWG5tQ= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3a8d:b0:27c:ecec:8854 with SMTP id om13-20020a17090b3a8d00b0027cecec8854mr3507470pjb.7.1699965709862; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:41:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6318C91C-A664-464E-8A9E-4C2A0FFD9C05@comcast.com> <4154C0D8-EF61-4483-97F9-7CDE82CD803D@gmx.de> <35F467F6DA3F419FA78DA6BBB236030D@SRA6> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 07:41:36 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [NNagain] The rise and fall of the 90's telecom bubble X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 12:41:51 -0000 On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 7:06=E2=80=AFAM Sebastian Moeller via Nnagain wrote: > All good explanations for what I see, yet this is happening in th= e capital... (but truth be told, when I bought this phone I did not pay muc= h attention to which bands it was suited for, it is not impossible that it = at least partly my phone's fault that I am connecting with EDGE speeds, qui= te the throw-back to the 2000s ;) but back then EDGE was indeed cutting edg= e). > About that bridge, I hope this is in NY city? It is delicious that all over the world, the actual ownership and resale value of the brooklyn bridge is so well known, that it is probably not required to explain the joke. That said it might be a good phrase to create and reference to the individual that made it famous: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker .. because the police had had to remove multiple newbie brooklyn bridge "owners" from erecting tollbooths on it. This analogy - call it - um, "Parkerization" - which has a similar meaning for wine - because of so many other would-be tollbooth owners erecting their financial "acumen" over otherwise simple, universal internet structures, from web certificates to web3. I am also kind of curious as to how long this meme has been in the world and real estate have been "sold" by famous grifters to an unsuspecting public. > > > > Regards > Sebastian > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Nnagain mailing list > > > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nnagain mailing list > > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > > _______________________________________________ > > Nnagain mailing list > > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain --=20 :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos