From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x534.google.com (mail-pg1-x534.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::534]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 830F13B29D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 17:47:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x534.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-5a1d91a29a0so3733332a12.1 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:47:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697492873; x=1698097673; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=MkSok5dOsujMfN3Wp5LNWubq/DKZmjC9hvU3ozbAYK4=; b=k4SdqR09p2j5Vt0wXWOtpOkfGUR5kogK8pNIxiEKEfhVVANp2aKajkRmnHr+xs3ED5 cEOxVI6vOGFfa5oDU20YVKOT3IonTcxpE2Bx0lTpfUr6X7d3n8bu9eUWR0udJrDpnY9a 3C3Rmj0KA4xz3lZl9SL6wtaDsK3vbutmyXBL1Dv6HjYrnhX6LVi3KCdb5GyJ3tm1f5U0 rMLwZE+2J4ad2jYa3R7KnCuaHckmAUfGE4OG/erzIc/pEhEbPB/piRRZ7VhFodbJ0LjA qz6OBx0kj5YwiYifuG741de3U9Kb+PIDSxdZhlnUOXe6qsiLbqFeAWr/FoW6r1FQH10B 8d2g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697492873; x=1698097673; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=MkSok5dOsujMfN3Wp5LNWubq/DKZmjC9hvU3ozbAYK4=; b=NKLQtCvHtpTlgUqoVbmyp1MV1HAVGPlsyfEuj4bP2XjMyxPHGRGOyAvbwYLsuW0m3F VI0kJ/yCk5ApUcgOFeLnF5OSsBTDWEDV6Ld2hSn0Q/KJmRStq8ixLPKqxGMFhOtECB/W Gm1LhTg0ZFUuHA8WGpwtyEVTtPwWKUdhMJ9VR7CjvDrlDoW8GgG2HAqI5ZyVnLp0DsWb Xv5p70eBV5wl9UsRi6TxLQdHz5uHRpR90mZz2nPy93tqY371U8TUuFK6g5xV0/bwCcpi 2bHhIpKkg2Z7o4bGMYtt6mpQivAiKZbl39BJSUMoBzxWzpEdhY/bRW5bbkq/PYFta97Y 2SKw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy6G0xQGgi14AlYodxNpYY2T43/kgMejchopVbLgG4BRbBxVIbX 81rxosdsh4Aijtoq2+yuZD76kgvxCP52qAKdWG8ZmRcI X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IH0CUx6Clv+Ffv7qTvDLEEMZZGHgBVsV/ukR6jHY9HYjXp1T3ktavITcdVRmsTKPGH8lawo47ruITGAheNnsFE= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:729e:b0:162:ee29:d3c0 with SMTP id o30-20020a056a20729e00b00162ee29d3c0mr340895pzk.42.1697492872718; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:47:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 14:47:32 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [NNagain] jon postel X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 21:47:54 -0000 For those that did not know him, there is this, and much more. https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2468.txt On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 2:15=E2=80=AFPM Randy Bush wrote: > > 25 years ago, jon postel died. we stand on the shoulders of jon and > others, a number of whom died in october. not a cheering month for > old timers. > > randy --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos