From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oo1-xc35.google.com (mail-oo1-xc35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c35]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 717113CB38 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2024 12:42:14 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-oo1-xc35.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-5f2ba47c04aso290859eaf.3 for ; Mon, 09 Dec 2024 09:42:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1733766133; x=1734370933; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JFE5odsWwoAAO2byxAnUjnT1oUP31/U+dJCm9w75mm4=; b=a2a9FND7Vgz9jBPazs/GtLRzIcx/Xzb8DyOPSJWKgZI7X07Ny5VFfEWU3Vc1rxflIM Fw5mEEjVZrxlU4/2fNXAOJWNqkgV8q4PeP94dPeoMZyWn6wEElUpItOPL8/AxYhYkSf1 4TB6S8qB8Dfc9qHDzjtBMRYSKxKVBq0nDYE6RiG3i2p9aGK42pWNeHAcYRqqFWRxF7TA SMvIBvoKoA13RCh6FLwKqpPeM/DNd8DCreDe3Mc79wBSJZUeuAHAKYKnmuD0vjSLozia 8L2is72T4Fv4Aa90Ihmy1tiUsflJj3NwrE7TB59OXjD/I1BPBHtbpWhX+cALH+s1TM/T 8COA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1733766133; x=1734370933; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=JFE5odsWwoAAO2byxAnUjnT1oUP31/U+dJCm9w75mm4=; b=OaSw/Zi71/j+GSS5fFE3HH7JrZHgZniJFgC5Zhtlm8zBbDP2gwohYn5ydL9s8GX81f nUWaXiQNBRmjkPELKp0DauPZBF6ISk6mdWh/w4n1q7UbMZ2CUyjoZXff7vAik8Jv3l8c vdvEHGQgRUOZEtC1jkDdmzCZnsITCEmqgli0K28qDAT6XIhVS6mzbPDCMSUfDvy6Mmhr DDwmYx1vM9QkJnveNuW+Ek/SKPSxA9b3RHUp03f46mOw1TUXZTWIri9Sw+NxSXQ0G52K eefEMpglFAn4OrqnhZjrxycqOHl3S2u/CWNh2NVLiZFEOKKrzmqhrOYkXBWdc+GXPiax ktsQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw5Ay2yJXRc69LrFGiJvPYBVVGV+QMCIIs1oUSyw5f0nxu0S2I3 Oj+y+XFQ5xFeqd/6G2p+cP2/CSBOB802tJ+CCBNOwaGnXXeI66Xe1//xsSRAiNqZQWjxqsvlP22 Ay3ikSukrSj4Pyj2UDQF1R+zfPi4gXGWC X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsgBKithP3hBscNyTJNsigIogqK8lPwBEIVwpqVZpDzHrrBXYlTEn+VGn+7ccO 2FaQSJx/7C1ZwQDnbotnJeEw2W8zYCZqGwItNyV4ZXPBDswlqhjxhRBv8AUWx5szfkQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGpVFhI/6CWVGgbqYVat5SoIk+0D7L+52sLlcr35zmr4LSG2E9L+rqffl7ZR4PNhQcXqKF/DmpakLV04iDX0ec= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6871:8107:b0:288:5ae1:7318 with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-29fee5c4b3fmr835853fac.22.1733766132828; Mon, 09 Dec 2024 09:42:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 09:42:01 -0800 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [NNagain] ntia explicitly excludes latency under load from bead measurements X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2024 17:42:14 -0000 from: https://www.ntia.gov/sites/default/files/2024-12/draft_performance_measures= _for_bead_last-mile_networks_policy_notice.pdf "For latency testing, a provider must conduct a minimum of one test per minute =E2=80=94 60 tests per hour =E2=80=94 for each testing hour. If = the consumer load during a latency test exceeds 200,000 bits per second downstream,26 the provider may cancel the test and reevaluate whether the consumer load exceeds 200,000 bits per second downstream before retrying the test in the next minute." w/a 100ms baseline. Hilarious. Sad. --=20 Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos