From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ot1-x332.google.com (mail-ot1-x332.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::332]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 460843CB37 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 02:18:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x332.google.com with SMTP id 46e09a7af769-6cd33d51852so2388336a34.2 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 23:18:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1698560301; x=1699165101; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=y0ggoUb/3d5eiRVAzQIY0gUUpdOZ6YLinz54M5wCuLg=; b=mBdQ9K4pItDbHX5QHP0E85VkBznbuKjt4uPKw493G00wzb3M1SKsHwWPBbQvTK8s07 4FsGr+kqEn/PBQ2FRHEx0mzMSF8IhWI3MTksNQJvjdwR5lfRODxRiVfk2/pPhA9WjxT6 h2NtGtwtuuZmjo2BxKvRmcsuQCHo7E4Wvg6CoY0h8lRkijRX6f9L+6cJcu8Z7OYGOm8I USvkZRXab3UaqLPCFLQRTzRNZd5bKXpkw+fHJcjQCnEMXHZENl8y4btmGqNP0FrETG8j nDbWNYIL6Y7AIAhmBHgJV3ESLgMbhJ8rDwcqqK5vntABsoxBw0NJL7JUX2L6/5e2c7fX Kudw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1698560301; x=1699165101; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=y0ggoUb/3d5eiRVAzQIY0gUUpdOZ6YLinz54M5wCuLg=; b=gvP5inhe1DF/fxyBKtvaIEi0rUfoirDQwj9SdReJa3uKau6/wHLOb4OoERWxwrAGlc 2L8ESQfEf8ObMgRwQjB9cHNiFO3L+788/WZgKCJCpmdsmc6RAMjlFrYGsigD8b6dt/DC 1nsqXrbPYp9aUDYgZh4DvbWpsC5J+V4SHQW96U8iCBrjv6F6j+uGOLI57ZOlczifVhJV a6Q4mbYG+5x9kJ3wuLK0auwqWToC1KoJLMquVEoibs2D4RjHHu6o4GY7MqPqJ7v8fsHT ldXuH9PvxzWMn8Qeyyn1R4aWA1cDcqs/zG+LvltLEBvCvdVjFXh8tfZtGgpEB0pbj5uC 3YHg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw3BXQ9mf+z4n3R1kd/5RwvETe60QqqhufLhzocbjWvbhJBNL2O ByGJUJXocVUvYA4B0FJ1vUs0z9Eoic31Ahv54i+jrDHILPS3Jg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGWcA3wvr19tWX87xjiSxr8FxLFVL7wdBOLl30Wgo7gLLYUab2BUw9VkjY+TihdJKgMXW1zkQxrkr4O5nGynRU= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:25d3:b0:6ce:29cd:b673 with SMTP id d19-20020a05683025d300b006ce29cdb673mr9398882otu.11.1698560300888; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 23:18:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 23:18:07 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [NNagain] 2015 flashback X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 06:18:22 -0000 We had many notables have key and prophetic things to say about the internet's problems and future... back in 2015, when we were fighting to keep home routers open enough to fix them. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HT2NjsHR1bGQM0PeawYuF60B_m3Hisa3_Q1MB2a= VNs4/edit?usp=3Dsharing I do not think any of the contributors to this document have changed their opinions much since then, and while I think the situation less dire, the overall scope of these problems outlined above, wider. --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos