From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x1030.google.com (mail-pj1-x1030.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB0843B29D for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:33:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pj1-x1030.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-280260db156so2617327a91.2 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 06:33:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1699713238; x=1700318038; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=Lwg2tFSIXg/VAi2Fw2WpWMQ6YGX9elde5WpX/d0aPc0=; b=Y+NYjb4uaUdHh+YuHTcj5+akpR/zluaPrsOONbfqW4dGfKIZBu4eRm1FgKfm8e5TTr Xf3pSU7P0Y+mnJUNuwQxhkH6ehLTXEo8aHRZhdbStoLJjp8BK2pFG6NugNJqECmwth/I ugYeWcKoUG22sbRqNwICmn4lwVmI58BwqrBUysSUZ+7TT7IfzmN1fnmTZZAGNbFQhT9Z v12QVH0GIdv+yjmD66Xq9MzLBC74gg9V0oV4sP6rXMmTtizAgtM7OjPwSzCVGHglxb0F j+Pc2neEusiOjbqMWFNnSFT64f4iJsGd6LUa/6ajqTOiE67GgldP5uMgEWFrB04pjYCb 4lUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1699713238; x=1700318038; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Lwg2tFSIXg/VAi2Fw2WpWMQ6YGX9elde5WpX/d0aPc0=; b=ItnH0WdpHiAAVIHy/EYBxm6WXncVNuqvzoTWlsWXRiBA2sXYF5BxhKOxURjAkjTYId +MEmK1smBHepsQNg+dCx+eSC8Hkp5YRgd9uuT+6ka0eM9UXw7mSVoAfbeQtYhRAyaZ69 AaaBtcGyEYOA7AESC3YqssgXi2Tqm8TZuCCuMWJEjBHsu0cnruBSTfe83fsER9butnkx BJSpSw50C+6AJXRq+MwK/6XgzP0iCjjh98hvprL1p3DML3Rq+Oix2PKFjlvBLj4A8CHl yIu12IGzYviLetuVPw7krcFcVonWdA8PvddFvomuACYg/znvWS80cIIYakDKBY3kD61U Ng0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxfgqpTGdqoxcyYtPmbBEFaYaqSmWMKOm410+wLLx2SVrcHdnJo vqho/i9D8WUFi/v6pKX1M3KMonzboK2S3KKkb2U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFVXO81a2hq8BG2AHcteFE+3GWBxLPlf8s6Z4gCYINMnEtjUXj5yqIbV003HWCVCxBYwewjow6PAeYLE1IO/tI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:4f4e:b0:281:3a4:2220 with SMTP id pj14-20020a17090b4f4e00b0028103a42220mr1862703pjb.36.1699713237575; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 06:33:57 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 09:33:45 -0500 Message-ID: To: Vint Cerf Cc: Warren Kumari , "Steven G. Huter" , Internet-history , Christophe Diot , =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspect?= =?UTF-8?Q?s_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [NNagain] [ih] visual internet routing X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 14:33:58 -0000 ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Vint Cerf via Internet-history Date: Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 9:24=E2=80=AFAM Subject: [ih] visual internet routing To: Warren Kumari , Steven G. Huter , Internet-history , Christophe Diot https://www.sidn.nl/en/news-and-blogs/packet-run-is-an-interactive-marble-r= un-that-shows-people-how-the-internet-works This is a wonderful concept, thanks!!!!! ages ago we tried to get funding for an animation or build a rube goldberg machine. for how network queues work, getting so far as writing a script for it and soliciting bids: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TeMbxDQA81P-Fu47rWcztwcqrh1So4qt77B_Tt_= fxsU/edit?usp=3Dsharing Instead we wave hands, and use chocolate fountains, or bottles of water... or MIT's juggling club - I have been losing my marbles (sic) lately at how few people understand what a packet is! -- Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to: Vint Cerf Google, LLC 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor Reston, VA 20190 +1 (571) 213 1346 until further notice -- Internet-history mailing list Internet-history@elists.isoc.org https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/internet-history -- Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos