Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!
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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: rjmcmahon <rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com>
Cc: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
	heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] some compelling rhetoric
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 20:08:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw6C_ogqYN-p-PNQNoVG_SsdR3yGTc=-Juak3zq4X6XTDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ddfc07c8caa7acc35018f730edf7950@rjmcmahon.com>

I note that when I complement someone's rhetoric, I am often quite
honestly admiring of it, and yet being sarcastic about the uses to
subtly mislead. I am also hoping that with 186 people on the list,
that more will be inspired to thrash out truths and lies,
rationally... and come up with better rhetoric.

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023 at 1:43 PM rjmcmahon <rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com> wrote:
>
> Not sure of the goals with this, but it reads like misinformation and
> propaganda to me. The state of so-called "digital journalism" today is
> very sad. Hopefully, we'll find a way so quality journalism can rise to
> the top, created by journalists who get paid for publishing with
> integrity and aren't paid to produce propaganda (I know - wishful
> thinking - Elon Musk and all that.)
>
> History suggests we may have to wait awhile. Let's hope not.
>
> 1436 Gutenberg press invented
> 1517 Martin Luther posts his 95 Theses
> 1687 Newton's Principia is published
>
> https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs181/projects/2010-11/Journalism/index7f0d.html?page_id=16
>
> The fact of the matter is that democracy requires informed citizens. No
> governing body can be expected to operate well without knowledge of the
> issues on which it is to rule, and rule by the people entails that the
> people should be informed. In a representative democracy, the role of
> the press is twofold: it both informs citizens and sets up a feedback
> loop between the government and voters. The press makes the actions of
> the government known to the public, and voters who disapprove of current
> trends in policy can take corrective action in the next election.
> Without the press, the feedback loop is broken and the government is no
> longer accountable to the people. The press is therefore of the utmost
> importance in a representative democracy.
>
> Another, related, function of the press is to expose people to opinions
> contrary to their own. This function is perhaps the most valuable in the
> Internet age; while people can in theory get information about the
> actions of their government from online sources, it is all too easy to
> find opinions online that match one’s own. Informed decision-making on
> the part of voters requires an awareness of multiple points of view,
> which is not likely to be obtained if voters bear the sole
> responsibility of seeking out information on relevant issues. The news
> media provide a forum for debates to take place, as well as moderating
> and curating the arguments presented by all sides. It is, of course,
> idealistic to suppose that media give equal, or even proportional,
> representation to all opinions, but the fact that many media outlets
> present themselves as nonpartisan sources of information makes them a
> better forum for debate than online sources such as blogs, which are
> typically maintained by one individual or a small group of people with
> similar opinions
>
> Bob
> > https://www.freepress.net/blog/what-net-neutrality
> >
> > It also contains a link to the proposed NPRM.
> >
> > I am however, under the impression that 2019-2022 bandwidths increased
> > by a lot, coverage was extended to more folk, and cell phones
> > subsidiezed by ACP kept a lot of people connected.



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Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html
Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos

  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-14  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-13 18:22 Dave Taht
2023-10-13 20:43 ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-14  3:08   ` Dave Taht [this message]
2023-10-14 17:21     ` Dave Taht

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