From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com (mail-wm1-x32d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBBFE3B29D for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 07:27:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id 5b1f17b1804b1-41294021cd8so9356675e9.2 for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:27:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1708777641; x=1709382441; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=wORcNkudpgykYNjkFGbGoCiiPi3g6ehc651x5Xqtoew=; b=DJOG3ekmaRCXlPa2lyvyWZhyZiEqlkscN3+ADTG+EYHY2e6ljy1IhbJlK0cAOqZTyZ rJjVul+Uts9T4dBzQ1Vk6hwXoMSl808iXpUfxXUpxfatGLL3h1gygcLdnMoXZPiatBFy pgLJjhvT0kEBI0xeKdYsS4c/JPdhhbTnrisEGNj4KzfhN1kAqd4HtPEYp8HBkerEToZI nOm7rrHf0pbE63LQlu7hibSpSM6fUQJSYpr+5U+WvITHa2B51pIspj2Rbw2P5Vm7TS2o +x0mOQvTlVA41soyY4AVJVJATV8nvJqaKNqloHnt6UbVf4i2uwDSosOzxRfRZkvcBd2R Hulg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1708777641; x=1709382441; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=wORcNkudpgykYNjkFGbGoCiiPi3g6ehc651x5Xqtoew=; b=gtz6GrzHgQfm1WEyXMxif24B6w7XAjdaFXfUz0Ziuode0T63AcBwja44ilTn9QEl9H xTDOaZbnB2+VSYLj6p45mk9wxqOf/m0s4bs57yPGwDX6IaVpOMB0q2P789pH2ixqmDWC G0AlNt4TvabBCp1Oj0pL9JtUNnIosD6hnbV0OccznjiOfJ/p0pxf7JuykskD3WqX9ZoX GpiUQ8muwD8EfYjJrlAKGQRrm9vz0I/cDBahlcvPqgVC8FnQm88vTYDG2mwYBipbF2/N Lxpui7RyY7FPSPKdA0v/iko3okLqh28J7cCPhtjuHXhbBtcjazuJduC4C/I1z2f2R3RU j/6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw2I+wpgRsqfkskYS26IkuTkMihOs56XlI/51HCvNB2YLHDDQ2W KgrqAqkl0RlD4IayiLJMQmvyNV200XKsc/XFaL4USJLtG/jDS00QjH/L2zGHcmVmgK736d9qolE eqYR/7nAqVrZ2AgIykr12NSQ8ZV1aQ++E2AY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEPnhZGzyAvvIVm5z5GiW5Cr1Gk8RHHvT+dW+/zwx9qQs68tGgpoQ8M0RWPXsVBmYaRn0hpzFp1yXwY9bH/Pss= X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:4504:b0:412:94ac:bced with SMTP id t4-20020a05600c450400b0041294acbcedmr1510035wmo.23.1708777641231; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:27:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2FE6AC99-172D-4948-8277-AD4316054E3D@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2FE6AC99-172D-4948-8277-AD4316054E3D@gmail.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 07:27:09 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [NNagain] The Whys of the Wichita IXP Project X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 12:27:23 -0000 Who can fund more IXPs? The internet society has a 50k set-asied. >From a friend in the NTIA: "The NTIA middle mile program was a one-time authorization from Congress. All allocated funds have been assigned to grantees. Some states may, if funding allows, decide to fund middle mile projects from their BEAD allocation, but this is a lower priority compared to last-mile projects." What I (presently) see out of BEAD is all this end-user fiber, missing anchor tenants, and gpon, and cluelessness about IPvX, making interconnectivity more difficult. There was a pretty good AMA with utopia fiber in Utah yesterday. They at least are using active-e fiber, and are well connected to a IXP there. https://www.broadband.io/c/get-broadband-grant-alerts-news/credit-kim-mckin= ley-with-making-open-access-and-community-broadband-cool On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 7:05=E2=80=AFAM Fearghas Mckay via Nnagain wrote: > > > > On 22 Feb 2024, at 18:58, rjmcmahon via Nnagain wrote: > > Boston University spent $305M on this and it doesn't have an IXP. > > > There are two well established distinct IX in the metro already - why wou= ld you need a third that is not at an interconnection site ? > > Boston IX > Mass IX > > f > > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain --=20 https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/2024_predictions/ Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos