From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pj1-x102e.google.com (mail-pj1-x102e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::102e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05E913CB37 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2023 19:35:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pj1-x102e.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-27d113508bfso2627746a91.3 for ; Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:35:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697326554; x=1697931354; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=mW4hJeHNzbeB5X53nqNh9xFR5IQcFKWEP9H0/v80/dI=; b=HmBfJrOPmtSoS6ar8MYKcWUzYH+hU3znmrt3bNDGHO/7CzZs6HWQSomvraxs5TJzMy W6KlRIr9xqrd6dxfXfPaaWSti9u2s3kVYOr3UaCtXHJwwk6H7lxfpLV4S1nw0QwhDIRR jTm8gHSo7Isx/vVqThiYh1nvkAE2AZLlzz0Eb6H2Y5nQDxqJ23F38MdfhN+R0Su+FjSG F6f2bVOBFyxT6knTR0xiDannN8pJf14lFNgF0SwahTsDrWYSI4JXntlVPSTVIZkvYXbe OkUfuFtjjOuCjNMRDkQRIW9TD+1xqtecdmN7pOFObRIAx3E4N+epWBkYuvzCJygcPVK1 uwsg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697326554; x=1697931354; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=mW4hJeHNzbeB5X53nqNh9xFR5IQcFKWEP9H0/v80/dI=; b=rlsoJobZf1uQolz17JKgVQzk0Z0rzSHGPbHOeW8p+rHkEH5etpQzTe+9eLKIeWpjvA s3y+NUkefCu4QweEkBj1eOgbNlTWGclumUhXLbs+ZRcrnXmS3w/66OnOvixN1q8obERf Bf5Q2nM/Uki7hyAtJR7QcvUreegvUMWnkpma80Tu1X3cBC3c/btTI5uz9HMQCzuD7Xy1 utFv0v3nqM5/37lQatVSFzRJZFpmIsKfV06ZM7pS/3rH5jCbe1QzYgjx+RGMBhG6RkVt UYYnpWJfc6iMv8mXM0/3FFq0Jq0QEiDIfn+ymZN/J3uyYIen54dx11Iv7nNmB5werfZ4 lecQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywl2YVaWosCGQa5oT2eUolal+Lzp/BoRUvCvvous/czf1+rOeh+ sKkm9Jqk0UsP9UWqYFgUYEeOyeuQfYs61tDP5EM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEVgAKzWfDHGOf5dReCTxWEHcrViaQxIfFi5JHATB/QjzDTC3hm6aGDreDGvC1hmbvmUCRJxQA1euIzA57ijnA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:7523:b0:27d:5d9:a887 with SMTP id q32-20020a17090a752300b0027d05d9a887mr10680102pjk.44.1697326554529; Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:35:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <851ba854e9bec33e55bbc7f3afd9e798@rjmcmahon.com> In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 16:35:39 -0700 Message-ID: To: Eugene Y Chang Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= , Qian Li Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [NNagain] if you had a billion dollars X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 23:35:56 -0000 That is lovely. I too would like to find a place to logout for a long while= . 172 thoughts left to come in! /me makes mental push for everyone to check their spam folders (was this list coming in as spam?) On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 3:54=E2=80=AFPM Eugene Y Chang wrote: > > Build an institute to teach an appreciation of natural philosophy and Zen= . > (I need to think more about generalizing alternative development to spiri= tual connections.) > Many people have lost (or lack) a connection to both approaches to realit= y. > > > Gene > ---------------------------------------------- > Eugene Chang > IEEE Senior Life Member > eugene.chang@ieee.org > m 781-799-0233 (in Honolulu) > > > > > On Oct 14, 2023, at 4:00 AM, Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: > > Thank you! 173 people left to weigh in! > > On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 3:49=E2=80=AFAM Qian Li = wrote: > > > I would like to fund in three areas. > > Quantum computer design. It is the next revolution in the computing world= . > Building programmable network routers that are sufficiently quick to hand= le network packets at line speeds. In the meantime, router functions can be= updated as easily and economically as software updates. This will solve th= e problem of Internet ossification. The deployment of new Internet technolo= gies such as IPv6 will thus become easy. > Home robots design. This may include cleaning, cooking, and babysitting r= obots. They can free housewives from day to day housework. As a result, mor= e women will be able to contribute to the advance of computer networks > > Qian > > ________________________________ > From: Nnagain on behalf of Dave T= aht via Nnagain > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2023 11:15 AM > To: rjmcmahon > Cc: Dave Taht ; Network Neutrality is back! Let=C2= =B4s make the technical aspects heard this time! > Subject: Re: [NNagain] if you had a billion dollars > > thx for your thoughts! I have a fear that the other 175 other people > here that have not posted yet have all our emails are going directly > into their spam bin, so I wanted with this post to encourage people to > lean back, relax (smoke one if you got 'em! Put on some great record > on the stereo too), and propose spending an arbitrary billion $ on > something they think would be good for the computing and internet > world. > > It is otherwise such an inoptimistic world nowadays. I was delighted > to see the whole earth catalog back online: > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D37872774 > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 11:23=E2=80=AFPM rjmcmahon wrote: > > > o) FiWi chips and FiWi concentrators > o) Train people in fields that give them long term careers, e.g. how to > construct & manage fiber & RF networks > o) Things to help with climate impacts, e.g. advertise the heck out of > heat pumps > o) Fund shelters and support systems for victims of domestic violence > o) Try to find a business model that pays journalists so we don't have > to rely on Jeff Bezos for our news > > I wouldn't: > o) Buy an island in Hawaii > o) Buy a house that's more than 2000 sq ft > o) Buy a boat > o) Have 11 kids with multiple women > o) Fund anti aging research > o) Try to build rockets to mars, unless the project hired minorities to > do so > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dgoh2x_G0ct4 > > Bob > > in trying to initiate some out of the box thinking here... > > What would *you* do with a billion dollars? > > ... > > I wrote this in 2015. I would not change much: > > http://the-edge.taht.net/post/billion/ > > > > > -- > Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.h= tml > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > > > > > -- > Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.h= tml > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > > --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos