From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x12e.google.com (mail-lf1-x12e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::12e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DB2C3B29D for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 05:01:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-lf1-x12e.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-512b84bdaf1so5415560e87.1 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 02:01:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1708596096; x=1709200896; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/sSG8Vgla/fufHYM9zoh+cIKyyAc5fOVxIcb/kjcwcg=; b=mCcyEdEb+c8LD9h8XBO2oP9/6mu9ySatTla6dRV5o/3r//eaggM8yDj4iObwvIfYe9 g9WaWWUW/hP2zlMXnvwrTL2rsGGvJMkQzscbGrwUULgkSk0i4dYnGlLEo7fv30jbBk5K CMIKyBk9vGaDcISZehwvX1iWCZWTWy7NqbVcPUeEzK3BNz5O9ayKpTfbRqAGBFaFy/Oj L+tG0oUyyqbtZlnyxYhvC3xrkwkuBEbRMUgH4CFcCzYxk629vHgXMt3ArvbEVZcm1uzm R5t+aPCqNOY99sfGY1vD6IvkHPfwC+EShrsbMMFq7jtgNab4aIFJH9ctuf3lQl1n/75m vAqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1708596096; x=1709200896; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=/sSG8Vgla/fufHYM9zoh+cIKyyAc5fOVxIcb/kjcwcg=; b=eZA8bwmTqRPYUthKMgO7RSmEQtKb+aAMB9Yy9040dOvyZuqoD2+9rPlV9CEweDr0kB i9c662pfxWhN0rA4B/ouAhxqfqkQY6nSJ2gjeYe487N0L37CdrWED7i+g2dzZi7+B1HE KN7Xpac+HjIu3hlKJ1v/GZQLRv2pZWj91gtB1/fx46oVMz71xMiBkzgvi/boRE3vdeCV Y2+0wbG8fS+GhMsD9N5rgNBgCR8uhWCndD9YyrqxkASFz44Nw7FBRooVCjDRotewHVX3 36BKCkWbmfHtO/GKHJad7w05wt8PzVWqxBgFv6a3cbTENXhADF1OfblvGY1ov5N7r0em hbZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzYA/N2KzqOcFz+RRthIDIu1azp+m3xXgaF2JaUx1lT03nt1Hke EizuIKFIPxpHZ49kgRmpIZ5+ynvFauPnky08khvTP+UYfzJF5hlNh+WCAOvQg+BFm8Gw/GJyrFZ N+MAzsbXuvrBOTQ+TV0FsILh5z2QLd9kDqDs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG3FTbYSdu/5ATi+pOgXjXnv/nJpsgzgSahzv8BCpU11Hkuiw9pqcmc3WCY2cEcrIO50GNMbttNSavmKCz9kVM= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:46d2:0:b0:511:9949:25a3 with SMTP id p18-20020ac246d2000000b00511994925a3mr13766942lfo.7.1708596096342; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 02:01:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 05:01:23 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [NNagain] the real rural internet providers X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 10:01:38 -0000 Probably the biggest conference the ISPs that serve rural America have is wispamerica, which is this year march 4-7 in Oklahoma City. https://www.wispaevents.org/WISPAMERICA24 I would urge those raised in Washington, filled with angst by academics, and/or fed by the fiber lobby, to perhaps check it out. What I like most about this crowd is their can-do spirit. They have their own issues with the middle mile, and paperwork, that I wish more heard. There is another good one in august, called "Mountain Connect". --=20 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos