From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pg1-x52e.google.com (mail-pg1-x52e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E694F3B29D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 15:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pg1-x52e.google.com with SMTP id 41be03b00d2f7-5859d13f73dso2998953a12.1 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697483816; x=1698088616; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=Bgv1xtAg2anThgAHOjQANP45NJ0vJ9tp651B1dVjSWI=; b=edhcJZwV8Mxpswje9GeLtwsr3rRGTQEyJYPeWLFrfIhTYm8UVk93g/1i14pZaWrhqT hC6RJUi4iuIckkbYVPhCU3W87i1clvAwPSDyTk6AkB44UiNRoxGlIkiMYHyRYaZsmHlh 1P4FKZN9O9PYzSuITc1ycwpP0UKKy64BC3cnZIDEuce6IUsN2/ycI4YBF1fmNKpDNLbH WTc/PNr+kb11VX6QrxwvU+UeqSQr+MsLDQkeoWfkCOVhRVpoBWgW+tpQGFDyUlOdWa2P wq8ZiHMwgwUdN5Z3qOdgj6B0JPTpR2QPwQ7qYa/+Y1gZgdVVFxNLf8XSWPb0cO07ZTYo iGmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697483816; x=1698088616; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Bgv1xtAg2anThgAHOjQANP45NJ0vJ9tp651B1dVjSWI=; b=e6fRGdp9Xqd0z4VDgxsiZ34bb8jv2tmhiDK/7Rb/a3ENKBvyvhYLIwndoTCW6z5a5p XhQ+oEexLykD/Qh/lLzag4FCRLuTEQpotEw0edKA+L/ArnR+NLIfxm0i7rSX7F8SphuI 7AtEeapZ/Ezf9LAnZCDOklJI2rn7jplWmqBhgWujGxSvGe2v0CH3ebLVI2KvLjZExM+l aKbYmF6y694/HA4N6/vkidCdUcYco+9L+89VHK3ZhUErH9do6pRcyaxtX4am2DN7KIoI EUnndE9cGlsJ3bric/54P0mtoj74CRkL7xt4pER4TiwCSRwV6S+2XQA27pR7ZoNuz/Bv sRmw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyX6tOopMgtV4ez6b1pRdaypc9mtTWZegEchyRFZv5K+47LaAAQ ybTzLs5cvjakZgAv7wIrif9VD2ZQCKxffuk7VMo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGLV5X6ldaDDkcFVuRjiJFH7ciptB/RLKvOJkS9a78SYyVIdl/mGoSUGapjhQEzvUtAI+swzvbW0YStpIxZnYY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:fd11:b0:27d:65:53e1 with SMTP id cv17-20020a17090afd1100b0027d006553e1mr65325pjb.16.1697483815563; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:16:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:16:32 -0700 Message-ID: To: thejoff@mail.com, =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspect?= =?UTF-8?Q?s_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [NNagain] state broadband offices X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 19:16:57 -0000 On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:07=E2=80=AFPM le berger des photons via Nnagain wrote: > > Dave, you seem interesting and awake and aware of the capacities of your= own mind. Not always! No one is. > > Mr. Chang, to whom you forwarded my message unfortunately for him has a c= losed mind, figures he knows it all and has seen it all. This is a discussion list that you and he are on. > And I can tell you that his attitude is based on the brainwashing he's un= dergone which is completely invisible to him. I prefer, in general, that people discuss the ideas and not the people. > > Unfortunate for him. > > Thanks for trying. I see you're too busy to be interested in this yourse= lf, or aren't interested for any of a multitude of other possible reasons. I am trying to have coherent responses in a few hours or days. > > I make my living from my alternative network. Have been doing so for 20 = years by being a minimalist regarding my knowledge. > > I find the study of how good folks get completely brainwashed by the New = World ODOR to be more interesting. > > Mr. Chang has had his brain washed. I"m sorry for him. I haven't ever = been able to help a one. > > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:57=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:11=E2=80=AFAM le berger des photons via Nnaga= in >> wrote: >> > >> > here is the best idea I've ever run into regarding getting artificial = network connectivity (as opposed to the inborn network we have and have bee= n programmed to ignore or had our pinneal glands poisoned) out to everybody= regardless of how few or many neighbors they have: >> > >> > https://patents.justia.com/inventor/sherwin-i-seligsohn >> >> The patents above have mostly expired, as has the fella who did them. >> He woul have been interesting to talk to. >> >> > this went nowhere because the New World ODOR didn't want it to, as it = was only good for all of us and none of them. >> >> The x loon project tried to bring suborbital internet via balloon. >> Great post-mortum here: >> >> https://storage.googleapis.com/x-prod.appspot.com/files/The%20Loon%20Lib= rary.pdf >> >> >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 7:37=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: >> >> >> >> Since texas has been a focus, here is that broadband office, and many= others. >> >> >> >> https://broadband.money/state-broadband-offices/texas >> >> director: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grconte/ >> >> >> >> I started this list in the hope that we could constructively engage >> >> across professions, and try to propose ideas that made sense for >> >> genuinely improving the internet. As of today... Many more (u)IXPs >> >> seem like a huge win for humanity in general, and yet are seemingly >> >> absent from the national agenda. So... ring up your broadband office, >> >> use your linkedin, have a meeting, ask 'em to join this list for >> >> constructive discussions? >> >> >> >> The website above (broadband.io) has mostly been involved with BEAD, >> >> but now as it is moving into more deployment phase. It has often been >> >> not fun seeing the earnest young faces on the friday AMAs there, (I >> >> did one) also trying to do the right things for our internet, through >> >> a sea of lobbyists and incomplete technical information. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-b= of.html >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Nnagain mailing list >> >> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net >> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Nnagain mailing list >> > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain >> >> >> >> -- >> Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.= html >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos >> _______________________________________________ >> Nnagain mailing list >> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos