From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi1-x22f.google.com (mail-oi1-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A952F3CB37 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 2023 14:15:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3af8b498d31so42564b6e.1 for ; Mon, 02 Oct 2023 11:15:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1696270522; x=1696875322; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8MkqEwAb6Ozrqf+n+VT13OmONrqKzaqlO2EY3g6RrgI=; b=VjObC+dCY/bfskpRefO/KPZDe8zmCbbn1NzXAmM/rokCidoMWScOXc/0Bg8l40k8in iHyCTK4XY+wh0YqTIoY6ixJLayUF9elG2c69vgvDpWxnVgpcAALAnEeeOKeB91+Nt6Tm N9DQYR7GTScO7gfL7hZClNF5sDk+4WLu1W9vx7C3z3UjEZpyIJ+Ug4BtPhr/VBez4sis ZpLhQ6tgsLRneiOGoqCfs0Lr2TsK2sTcs765gT1SGNZ3XJiZKdbUb1g/SBqKjmCh2G/Z F3GdPP5c+VQTV91F1HD1Aby+Bd8N5WS+ThnrHFj1mfIHn16GBu+FR2zjwrp1q3MkeEsW 3QPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1696270522; x=1696875322; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=8MkqEwAb6Ozrqf+n+VT13OmONrqKzaqlO2EY3g6RrgI=; b=uy4nBZBBo8ehOYfqTSaDnsd79xI5FyokGiL6Zrn+3PRgdxWGqLwfwl38gMB5EQKefo TzDmAbpefFWGSs98j1wF9lP9OlDhbXvNwuaeO0tBygJwgIfOqeYLl+LnXX/HF9ENMzxh Saa4MlUe7+Y8i6Y2Zgsf9aOpItZHzI8MY2abZNNw7I7Eh+pDnmZi5EYQcJYAuTIXFCxn +HwwYLpTN6DLfJFvaTQgtdzH01UmgvUx37fQdiV7eXvd5qZUSjh8rWaIMKXEgqpXgTye 702+wFYo01Vy9NTpkVSyYXACDgBEDwvbtZnN63BJUaX5oATUrv6nuD71B1QU92sUNOJP hlYA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yys+Fla73gwCln5d5sKINLWNd+ooeSUrHcP/F5bUpYB2CgdIb8N TDQFJYrn6/+At19KkXDGIUnY7/DBlv9vd5tZe3Dza6NznJY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG0HpZueSGAH6oNa34BbgEOuDPrLAnjurjPGqW2KxfAnPF6S89/Afpv9A1sLZMYm+V4qsnERaIeY9MTa/tWCeI= X-Received: by 2002:aca:2119:0:b0:3a4:2983:fae4 with SMTP id 25-20020aca2119000000b003a42983fae4mr13261682oiz.16.1696270522258; Mon, 02 Oct 2023 11:15:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 11:15:10 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [NNagain] Introduction: Dr. David Bray X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2023 18:15:23 -0000 All: I have spent the last several days reaching out to as many people I know with a deep understanding of the policy and technical issues surrounding the internet, to participate on this list. I encourage you all to reach out on your own, especially to those that you can constructively and civilly disagree with, and hopefully work with, to establish technical steps forward. Quite a few have joined silently! So far, 168 people have joined! Please welcome Dr David Bray[1], a self-described "human flack jacket" who, in the last NN debate, stood up for the non -partisan FCC IT team that successfully kept the system up 99.4% of the time despite the comment floods and network abuses from all sides. He has shared with me privately many sad (and some hilarious!) stories of that era, and I do kind of hope now, that some of that history surfaces, and we can learn from it. Thank you very much, David, for putting down your painful memories[2], and agreeing to join here. There is a lot to tackle here, going forward. [1] https://www.stimson.org/ppl/david-bray/ [2] "Pain shared is reduced. Joy shared, increased." - Spider Robinson --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos