From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pl1-x635.google.com (mail-pl1-x635.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::635]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5FD0D3B2A4; Mon, 12 Feb 2024 03:08:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pl1-x635.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1d94323d547so25161605ad.3; Mon, 12 Feb 2024 00:08:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1707725328; x=1708330128; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zXCpNSSlCwpDZgwxrk5PIszscCqShJAAXM0E39/xoEE=; b=Uk+o8RjGW3igz2WjoWCtBdp/Lf31QrP8/zmEZKaxfUy3hg5zTfte05FTmYWnnxJ+/4 DWh6eevD99SZpPYEeYUMxVpcx5hLUgBCi9BGNnb3UI0C5I1BiLW6KZCxonh7WPcJvDiI /C4CeWU382bXrdNmvtk9/X2UEiwkxRYaMsFlUXCjnelXxlTv+HVJsLV02OYIxiKAtOTS Z5FOfjXi3yGBFO9nFmjNNxYC0hlJTPL/lpPiptTfbfWw85naWtfs8kcZ62FVC37dkKXm nfkCueFVSfylY2i1N+BQdM7C9j1sc4a1iSFM8XT8UitrF4Z7/daI/HeAIBwfXucrTZlo FUZA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1707725328; x=1708330128; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=zXCpNSSlCwpDZgwxrk5PIszscCqShJAAXM0E39/xoEE=; b=Lhnt8wWy3j87/0W6e27UxJ4YuC/CJzewKvjNA6/RsZxan5zG9CpTWNxEvfUfeIYIDx JWL4A/xNMTxXQ7XRRA19FNDOmb6TNDa5rn2ij3pNCBWkypZ+Xj49upudDNv8o+5iwIGg u/NV9PQKewcLVn+yDbaHgY+c2MpDRo6qzuC3ON+gbPUIXXvMRVsxTIURp6J9hkEhwHj7 ZZgGxW7E4c1155r14yt+xJ49EaymJPn5+ChLj/JFPU+g3zpunSRkHGe2bwQP2iXH3FA5 lc2X2xcAMbG4Q3Bj3HR9IAAqnsg8RG9glTk0JK/ZAisltypxnvMR4kp4Dbv0apd3iYoJ t1pA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx/k2vtjyDRtNkyr+C8Ci6Ve96OkDqCjHDjdB57jr6NcsLzt05G Kz+/z8PaKH7Tg7n5rO0pKNQUT+LdxItTFKRjAD54KXQ7P81Ru7cuyJ9IcbgWm8mmuPHyFI+jj4C sqFOsgF+ecm+r1ipGgKFwlGAR61HAWMwmMFE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFUCqSyzOqbRMnWz9eHJRGz1bpTPpZwEkVcxlTLySnM4B8v7kxGdFjI10t8MQ+0SBWPxJvMUea+qrSg//tuKpY= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90b:3842:b0:296:6702:b042 with SMTP id nl2-20020a17090b384200b002966702b042mr3572077pjb.9.1707725328035; Mon, 12 Feb 2024 00:08:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Taht Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 03:08:36 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= , bloat Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [NNagain] state of the bloat 2024 X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2024 08:08:49 -0000 I hope the "unglitching the net" talk gains a good audience. For those that have not signed up for today: https://sotn24.sched.com/ More fuel for the fire: https://blog.apnic.net/2024/02/12/unbloating-the-buffers/ Elsewhere, Oleg just tore down and tested the latest gen4 starlink dishy in ukraine, also using the rrul test. https://olegkutkov.me/2024/02/12/starlink-terminal-revision-4-overview-and-= tests/ --=20 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos