From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pl1-x62c.google.com (mail-pl1-x62c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A6A83B29D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 23:15:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-pl1-x62c.google.com with SMTP id d9443c01a7336-1c9daca2b85so20493965ad.1 for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 20:15:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697253339; x=1697858139; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=sAfzgiz4eSm4bBdATQcQdq6VKFxksKCjb4RJWAwnjzQ=; b=iJPRUGV+sZrLAbAyoSHzIYqq5/g0QhC6nv87+GPwmAB1q1HqYIZw8FuJfUfopxWx3f 48EBdkRr+4K/NQ1aLBPO6f6pD9PIWNBmBClApLTIs73ntKNZe9x49XuwOPemz78JYuFG E+B7X3QbL71aJ+uePmG3Uks4DvT0aEtKEjLkykDq5SCB/VxA/9YxbrvbI0i0G1eMST8V 40Gr19Jbd/oZXH8ShN2gPNxU8afJXOTMqzYZL9kmHRjG9yM3476c4xtmp+nUtlBsNi2q uxajdaKK/1aa1t7NzIYpTKS57m8jghJpB9FgXNn/6UG0kTj2jG/atWOG7ntAjjXt079d aDPQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697253339; x=1697858139; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=sAfzgiz4eSm4bBdATQcQdq6VKFxksKCjb4RJWAwnjzQ=; b=BZsn8vsPA9e2cE7SYajU0VbAm6ss/Fw2WmXZa+xgSnEfN4E1nwjiebsLNOiNksr1hm uEjgHtbGrJbCnPRsVDSxS0BIXmS3luPRCVwbuuEbhbR2A5av7/b+cqgVFBLRaceAKVWC o/gqdd82OP3+rYcbcb5KkIBwPjHdqYHACY+ICQoUriFJfbWN4KrJuiwxXIMpkw6ktPQ/ kVcqMwrxSxqeVGY7aRFqSUFUUuxCtXCPLrRT8xEjcIPqoR9iU2Jq18Dwo/p2iaClaqz+ kGjZPGXSyC+aG+qnQMKYmTkuNufP0ck5ScavHrqtq5/rj/tFTZUaQgDbJc8LInoV+tWV 0lnA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxMMEwcD2SeLUxT5sYUwStE7wtauNqrsLGE1T37kCbEGi52ctTj 7GLkhPMGbzdPwZU1kQJ63NoKTGu53ffIlHWQ9HI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGLp9e/X5hISubOMj23D1W5iO7nLbgxJ/kybKagggg9OBf6u1/+XplAuvZO3Zq07kTg276GRgksJgUDWcQAeQo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:c711:b0:1c3:e2eb:f79d with SMTP id p17-20020a170902c71100b001c3e2ebf79dmr2334849plp.8.1697253339124; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 20:15:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <851ba854e9bec33e55bbc7f3afd9e798@rjmcmahon.com> In-Reply-To: <851ba854e9bec33e55bbc7f3afd9e798@rjmcmahon.com> From: Dave Taht Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 20:15:26 -0700 Message-ID: To: rjmcmahon Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [NNagain] if you had a billion dollars X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 03:15:40 -0000 thx for your thoughts! I have a fear that the other 175 other people here that have not posted yet have all our emails are going directly into their spam bin, so I wanted with this post to encourage people to lean back, relax (smoke one if you got 'em! Put on some great record on the stereo too), and propose spending an arbitrary billion $ on something they think would be good for the computing and internet world. It is otherwise such an inoptimistic world nowadays. I was delighted to see the whole earth catalog back online: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3D37872774 On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 11:23=E2=80=AFPM rjmcmahon wrote: > > o) FiWi chips and FiWi concentrators > o) Train people in fields that give them long term careers, e.g. how to > construct & manage fiber & RF networks > o) Things to help with climate impacts, e.g. advertise the heck out of > heat pumps > o) Fund shelters and support systems for victims of domestic violence > o) Try to find a business model that pays journalists so we don't have > to rely on Jeff Bezos for our news > > I wouldn't: > o) Buy an island in Hawaii > o) Buy a house that's more than 2000 sq ft > o) Buy a boat > o) Have 11 kids with multiple women > o) Fund anti aging research > o) Try to build rockets to mars, unless the project hired minorities to > do so > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dgoh2x_G0ct4 > > Bob > > in trying to initiate some out of the box thinking here... > > > > What would *you* do with a billion dollars? > > > > ... > > > > I wrote this in 2015. I would not change much: > > > > http://the-edge.taht.net/post/billion/ --=20 Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.htm= l Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos