[NNagain] BEAD guidelines phase 2

[NNagain] BEAD guidelines phase 2

[Dave Taht]

Prior to NN coming back into view, I was primarily trying to put some
sense into the BEAD processes and priorities.
I strongly approved of the idea of the central government handing the
issues for the states to try and handle, they are just as understaffed
and low on clue technologically, and I figured the odds were oh, 7 out
of 50 that might establish good programs for it.

I have now seen a few nice proposals funded, including one up in main
that connects to canada. But oh! the profusion of rules required, to
seek to do a build out, only covering CAPEX, in each state, is hard to
get through, and I think, like many here, we wish it would go away.
Hereś some if you wish to while away a lazy friday afternoon. Pick one
randomly. Let us know if you see anything good, or sane, or hilareous,
or horrible?

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brooke-coleman-broadband_bead-grant-internetforall-activity-7120436030196903937-kP6O

PS the P99conf I am in this week is VERY good and clued, and 100% online.

-- 
Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html
Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos

Re: [NNagain] BEAD guidelines phase 2

[Livingood, Jason]

If you think the BEAD rules are a lot, of course just bear in mind the follow-on compliance needs w/r/t Title-II. ;-) In any case, having spoken at some recent BEAD events, my focus has been on trying to get folks to think "beyond the build" so to speak. What I mean is that the main focus has been on the initial physical build. That is of course critical in these rural and other unserved locations, but is often the easy part in a way. Sustaining ongoing network operations and all that operating an ISP these days involves is a bigger deal and likely more complex than many perceive. 

JL

On 10/18/23, 16:34, "Nnagain on behalf of Dave Taht via Nnagain" <nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>> wrote:


Prior to NN coming back into view, I was primarily trying to put some
sense into the BEAD processes and priorities.
I strongly approved of the idea of the central government handing the
issues for the states to try and handle, they are just as understaffed
and low on clue technologically, and I figured the odds were oh, 7 out
of 50 that might establish good programs for it.


I have now seen a few nice proposals funded, including one up in main
that connects to canada. But oh! the profusion of rules required, to
seek to do a build out, only covering CAPEX, in each state, is hard to
get through, and I think, like many here, we wish it would go away.
Hereś some if you wish to while away a lazy friday afternoon. Pick one
randomly. Let us know if you see anything good, or sane, or hilareous,
or horrible?


https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brooke-coleman-broadband_bead-grant-internetforall-activity-7120436030196903937-kP6O__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!BAVazn1pE2o686uDjeD0sin7cjod4hmQ9mLslfZxkqelltKeEnadv2oLeIcwZuN1uTqe7trI8GHuSOtxzmuapGF2SbKoVyY8$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brooke-coleman-broadband_bead-grant-internetforall-activity-7120436030196903937-kP6O__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!BAVazn1pE2o686uDjeD0sin7cjod4hmQ9mLslfZxkqelltKeEnadv2oLeIcwZuN1uTqe7trI8GHuSOtxzmuapGF2SbKoVyY8$> 


PS the P99conf I am in this week is VERY good and clued, and 100% online.


-- 
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Re: [NNagain] BEAD guidelines phase 2

[rjmcmahon]

Hi Jason,

Is there any public information that is accurate and breaks out the 
sustaining and opex costs of an ISP, along with the trend lines of each 
sub category?

Bob
> If you think the BEAD rules are a lot, of course just bear in mind the
> follow-on compliance needs w/r/t Title-II. ;-) In any case, having
> spoken at some recent BEAD events, my focus has been on trying to get
> folks to think "beyond the build" so to speak. What I mean is that the
> main focus has been on the initial physical build. That is of course
> critical in these rural and other unserved locations, but is often the
> easy part in a way. Sustaining ongoing network operations and all that
> operating an ISP these days involves is a bigger deal and likely more
> complex than many perceive.
> 
> JL
> 
> On 10/18/23, 16:34, "Nnagain on behalf of Dave Taht via Nnagain"
> <nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net
> <mailto:nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Prior to NN coming back into view, I was primarily trying to put some
> sense into the BEAD processes and priorities.
> I strongly approved of the idea of the central government handing the
> issues for the states to try and handle, they are just as understaffed
> and low on clue technologically, and I figured the odds were oh, 7 out
> of 50 that might establish good programs for it.
> 
> 
> I have now seen a few nice proposals funded, including one up in main
> that connects to canada. But oh! the profusion of rules required, to
> seek to do a build out, only covering CAPEX, in each state, is hard to
> get through, and I think, like many here, we wish it would go away.
> Hereś some if you wish to while away a lazy friday afternoon. Pick one
> randomly. Let us know if you see anything good, or sane, or hilareous,
> or horrible?
> 
> 
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brooke-coleman-broadband_bead-grant-internetforall-activity-7120436030196903937-kP6O__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!BAVazn1pE2o686uDjeD0sin7cjod4hmQ9mLslfZxkqelltKeEnadv2oLeIcwZuN1uTqe7trI8GHuSOtxzmuapGF2SbKoVyY8$
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brooke-coleman-broadband_bead-grant-internetforall-activity-7120436030196903937-kP6O__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!BAVazn1pE2o686uDjeD0sin7cjod4hmQ9mLslfZxkqelltKeEnadv2oLeIcwZuN1uTqe7trI8GHuSOtxzmuapGF2SbKoVyY8$>
> 
> 
> PS the P99conf I am in this week is VERY good and clued, and 100% 
> online.

Re: [NNagain] [EXTERNAL] Re: BEAD guidelines phase 2

[Livingood, Jason]

On 10/19/23, 12:35, "rjmcmahon" <rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com <mailto:rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com>> wrote:
> Is there any public information that is accurate and breaks out the 
sustaining and opex costs of an ISP, along with the trend lines of each 
sub category?

I doubt it - these things are highly proprietary.