From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-il1-x134.google.com (mail-il1-x134.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDFCA3B29D for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2023 17:47:33 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-il1-x134.google.com with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-35961c61febso1072305ab.1 for ; Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:47:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1699483653; x=1700088453; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=nDE3RpSuw5sx0MhYQBBI2J234ZTlU0wXd7tzdl/oAuU=; b=dXa5OMOzZmf1bhWeJZ47+NwN6UCAQ9iZ8cspfZDSzXnHdsYL462n04fDGJPaKqFvVy jchuB5LYmaqZ+aN6MmAzSBE0v7VMtPsEB5r7LaVej5KAncsT08KTRu4sB+r51ZUcal9U 75qV7nZtBm+2BFxUr4aRrBvqUHEyTN9DCWG3ZLtTszvj/CGUETpfdCg0ohj/Lc5g8AJp HUHvSPwMZnEuPDkjJEkL2sENKuNEXIRpJ+naYLpMjlGW+TudN5Z3c9lGw7M2vUWERmTH 1a6p75yG8UaR96zEtWUEdyIeD11lMPDmD5htcC7cVCJp+vmMVRoXhGiyTe62syyo7yMM J2zg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1699483653; x=1700088453; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nDE3RpSuw5sx0MhYQBBI2J234ZTlU0wXd7tzdl/oAuU=; b=GmxDU/rQSImE28VPSv9pGDwilOvST7nLVXtfrx5LIN3LdvcEwABDarV4pjGmWgHYY7 k2BqdVoM8yUZIZcAPA5Pco9jQQBzuH0zh1Vry/od8TRqMJcyXeFNWYpjE4oaZt5j+VzE RNjtzy59mHSCL5HkqE5APYUvravv1jRtwn8khWzDGfe7LvI653q5w8agM0TvewCiLJHT STD9eD2UORuQcT9YqRlOPoj1sGKFNOWc71av299MkjCX/ZU0C25acq+rszOwQr6TBZUb CSyckUahg8sB8G5+8/Gf/+bRaGK+daq2vvxTq90P4LE1JIfAsmR2nKvbMFj2TsOkFPVo X/Ag== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyQ7JS5n9gnkGK5VXbCf1wLuYTQe5YryM5NGkX0QAlRgde1C4T5 dk6+bXsFcQ+AaBIJ+D0zYQ853kiIDWshf5uNQDZ5HWbyLpPEigHT X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE1f+g5u5D1gfVErgK+ApJxl4lGdsDMUKTXMIAPhS0eZJWMOKz+M3UlQvihxpNfKCu0RyVXgn6NxNqK6muoSKM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:1d05:b0:359:4199:1fe4 with SMTP id i5-20020a056e021d0500b0035941991fe4mr4194397ila.10.1699483653300; Wed, 08 Nov 2023 14:47:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Lee Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2023 17:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [NNagain] cybersecurity is not a talent problem X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2023 22:47:34 -0000 On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 2:22=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: > > Paul Vixie reposted this old piece of his, even more relevant today, than= 2015. > > https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lack-talent-problem-cyber-paul-vixie/ I disagree. With a lot, but let's just go with this > The "cyber" security problems that the US Government, and every other gov= ernment, and every large and medium enterprise are all coping with today do= not stem from lack of "cyber" talent. Take a look at https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/The-OPM-Data-Breac= h-How-the-Government-Jeopardized-Our-National-Security-for-More-than-a-Gene= ration.pdf on page 9: The bottom line. The longstanding failure of OPM's leadership to implement basic cyber hugiene, such as maintaining current authorities to operate and employing strong multi-factor authentication, despite years of warnings from the Inspector General, represents a failure of culture and leadershit, not technology. There is no substitute for talent. Regards, Lee