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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-13) on bottom.networkguild.org Subject: [NNagain] Polarized world threatens open internet: ICANN (AFP) X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 02:37:16 -0000 --000000000000c383b3060ab4983f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" After 25 years of keeping the internet strong and stable, the nonprofit ICANN -- responsible for its technical infrastructure -- is warning that increasingly polarized geopolitics could start cracking the foundations of the online world. "It's super important to differentiate between what countries decide to do with controlling content, as opposed to the technical infrastructure," the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers' interim chief executive Sally Costerton told AFP in a recent interview. "The risk of fragmentation at the technical level is enormous. The foundation crumbles and game over." ICANN has managed the technical underpinnings of the internet since the group was established in Los Angeles in 1998, and for the past seven years it has operated under an international model that has all "stakeholders" work collaboratively. "That has worked really well," Costerton said of the approach. ICANN is best known for its work maintaining and expanding the internet address system to new "domains" and languages from its early ".com" days only employing the Roman alphabet. But as online abuses -- from misinformation to hateful content -- have grown more insidious, interest has heightened in giving governments more control of the internet, including aspects that have previously been covered by ICANN. Shifting control of the internet's infrastructure to governments and trade groups, and shutting out the technical community, could crack its foundation, Costerton warned. But proposals have been circulating in the United Nations to give governments and trade groups such clout, and such discussions are expected to come to a head in 2025, according to ICANN. "You start to damage the foundation by changing the way that internet governance model works," Costerton said. "It looks like a magic trick, but it's the product of hundreds of thousands of people building trust in the technologies and each other." While ICANN keeps the infrastructure on which the internet operates sound, it has nothing to do with any digital content it supports, the executive noted. "I can't actually remove something from the internet," the ICANN chief said. "The other thing is that ICANN is politically neutral, we can't take sides." Costerton worries that mindset would shift if governments had more control of the internet infrastructure. She also sees a threat from the unintended consequences of regulation in countries intending to safeguard citizens from what is deemed undesirable online content there. "The internet was not designed on national borders, it's a global resource," Costerton said. "The minute you start to decentralize it, you're going to start to create digital islands." Essentially, the internet could be splintered as countries control what people see online. "We are living in an increasingly nationalistic, polarized world," Costerton said. "If you want all that wonderful content, and you want the magic trick to carry on, you must maintain the current trust-based model." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/polarized-world-threatens-open-internet-icann/ar-AA1kjXU2 -- Geoff.Goodfellow@iconia.com living as The Truth is True --000000000000c383b3060ab4983f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
After 25 years of keeping the internet strong a= nd stable, the nonprofit ICANN -- responsible for its technical infrastruct= ure -- is warning that increasingly polarized geopolitics could start crack= ing the foundations of the online world.

"It's super important to differentiate between what coun= tries decide to do with controlling content, as opposed to the technical in= frastructure," the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers= ' interim chief executive Sally Costerton told AFP in a recent intervie= w.

"The risk of fragmentation at the technical level is enormou= s. The foundation crumbles and game over."

ICANN has managed th= e technical underpinnings of the internet since the group was established i= n Los Angeles in 1998, and for the past seven years it has operated under a= n international model that has all "stakeholders" work collaborat= ively.
"That has worked really well," Costerton said of the ap= proach.

ICANN is best known for its work maintaining and expanding t= he internet address system to new "domains" and languages from it= s early ".com" days only employing the Roman alphabet.

But= as online abuses -- from misinformation to hateful content -- have grown m= ore insidious, interest has heightened in giving governments more control o= f the internet, including aspects that have previously been covered by ICAN= N.

Shifting control of the internet's infrastructure to governme= nts and trade groups, and shutting out the technical community, could crack= its foundation, Costerton warned.

But proposals have been circulati= ng in the United Nations to give governments and trade groups such clout, a= nd such discussions are expected to come to a head in 2025, according to IC= ANN.

"You start to damage the foundation by changing the way th= at internet governance model works," Costerton said.

"It l= ooks like a magic trick, but it's the product of hundreds of thousands = of people building trust in the technologies and each other."

W= hile ICANN keeps the infrastructure on which the internet operates sound, i= t has nothing to do with any digital content it supports, the executive not= ed.

"I can't actually remove something from the internet,&q= uot; the ICANN chief said.

"The other thing is that ICANN is po= litically neutral, we can't take sides."

Costerton worries = that mindset would shift if governments had more control of the internet in= frastructure.

She also sees a threat from the unintended consequence= s of regulation in countries intending to safeguard citizens from what is d= eemed undesirable online content there.

"The internet was not d= esigned on national borders, it's a global resource," Costerton sa= id.

"The minute you start to decentralize it, you're going = to start to create digital islands."

Essentially, the internet = could be splintered as countries control what people see online.

&qu= ot;We are living in an increasingly nationalistic, polarized world," C= osterton said.

"If you want all that wonderful content, and you= want the magic trick to carry on, you must maintain the current trust-base= d model."


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