[NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn

[NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn

[David Bray, PhD]

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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF

A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile,
Verizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking
website Downdetector.com.

The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30 a.m.
ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status
reports from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform,
showed.

More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and
T-Mobile were also reported on the platform.

Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters' requests
for comment.

And this -  I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll

WASHINGTON (AP) — Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospitals around
the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling
operations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S.
government is doing too little prevent such breaches.

Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology to
support everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient records.
Today, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold systems'
data and networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the American
Hospital Association’s cybersecurity adviser.

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<https://napawash.org/fellow/305629> & Distinguished
Fellow
<https://www.cxotalk.com/bio/dr-david-bray-distinguished-fellow-stimson-center>Henry
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Re: [NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn

[Dave Taht]

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:52 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain
<nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF

I had feared this was the natural outgrowth of the devastating DNS
KEYTRAP attack that was announced yesterday:
https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-widespread-internet-outages

But so far the bet on nanog is that "oops, cisco deleted the sim database."

I think they are being snarky about "the" sim database. I´m pretty
sure they are just being snarky...

> A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking website Downdetector.com.
>
> The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30 a.m. ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status reports from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform, showed.
>
> More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and T-Mobile were also reported on the platform.
>
> Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters' requests for comment.
>
> And this -  I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll
>
> WASHINGTON (AP) — Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospitals around the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling operations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S. government is doing too little prevent such breaches.
>
> Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology to support everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient records. Today, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold systems' data and networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the American Hospital Association’s cybersecurity adviser.
>
> --
> David Bray, PhD Principal, LeadDoAdapt Ventures, Inc.
> Loomis Innovation Council Co-Chair & Distinguished Fellow
> Henry S. Stimson Center, Business Executives for National Security
> _______________________________________________
> Nnagain mailing list
> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
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Re: [NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn

[Bill Woodcock]

I have not seen any credible evidence of any networks other than AT&T being involved.  

The rumors of something to do with a SIM database don’t explain all the PRI trunks down, but those predated the mobile outages, so it might be two unrelated issues. 
    
                -Bill


> On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:12 PM, Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:52 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain
> <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF
> 
> I had feared this was the natural outgrowth of the devastating DNS
> KEYTRAP attack that was announced yesterday:
> https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-widespread-internet-outages
> 
> But so far the bet on nanog is that "oops, cisco deleted the sim database."
> 
> I think they are being snarky about "the" sim database. I´m pretty
> sure they are just being snarky...
> 
>> A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking website Downdetector.com.
>> 
>> The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30 a.m. ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status reports from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform, showed.
>> 
>> More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and T-Mobile were also reported on the platform.
>> 
>> Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters' requests for comment.
>> 
>> And this -  I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll
>> 
>> WASHINGTON (AP) — Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospitals around the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling operations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S. government is doing too little prevent such breaches.
>> 
>> Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology to support everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient records. Today, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold systems' data and networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the American Hospital Association’s cybersecurity adviser.
>> 
>> --
>> David Bray, PhD Principal, LeadDoAdapt Ventures, Inc.
>> Loomis Innovation Council Co-Chair & Distinguished Fellow
>> Henry S. Stimson Center, Business Executives for National Security
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nnagain mailing list
>> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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Re: [NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn

[the keyboard of geoff goodfellow]

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if you look/see The Requisite "HUMPS" of/at all the carriers at
https://downdetector.com/ it seems to be more than just AT&T being involved

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 2:25 PM Bill Woodcock via Nnagain <
nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> I have not seen any credible evidence of any networks other than AT&T
> being involved.
>
> The rumors of something to do with a SIM database don’t explain all the
> PRI trunks down, but those predated the mobile outages, so it might be two
> unrelated issues.
>
>                 -Bill
>
>
> > On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:12 PM, Dave Taht via Nnagain <
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:52 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain
> > <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF
> >
> > I had feared this was the natural outgrowth of the devastating DNS
> > KEYTRAP attack that was announced yesterday:
> >
> https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-widespread-internet-outages
> >
> > But so far the bet on nanog is that "oops, cisco deleted the sim
> database."
> >
> > I think they are being snarky about "the" sim database. I´m pretty
> > sure they are just being snarky...
> >
> >> A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile,
> Verizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking
> website Downdetector.com.
> >>
> >> The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30
> a.m. ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status
> reports from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform,
> showed.
> >>
> >> More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and
> T-Mobile were also reported on the platform.
> >>
> >> Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters'
> requests for comment.
> >>
> >> And this -  I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing:
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll
> >>
> >> WASHINGTON (AP) — Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospitals
> around the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling
> operations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S.
> government is doing too little prevent such breaches.
> >>
> >> Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology
> to support everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient
> records. Today, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold
> systems' data and networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the
> American Hospital Association’s cybersecurity adviser.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Bray, PhD Principal, LeadDoAdapt Ventures, Inc.
> >> Loomis Innovation Council Co-Chair & Distinguished Fellow
> >> Henry S. Stimson Center, Business Executives for National Security
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Nnagain mailing list
> >> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 40 years of net history, a couple songs:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
> > Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nnagain mailing list
> > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>

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living as The Truth is True

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Re: [NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn

[Vint Cerf]

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Could some non-ATT outages be people trying to reach ATT destinations?
V

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024, 18:39 the keyboard of geoff goodfellow via Nnagain <
nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> if you look/see The Requisite "HUMPS" of/at all the carriers at
> https://downdetector.com/ it seems to be more than just AT&T being
> involved
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 2:25 PM Bill Woodcock via Nnagain <
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> I have not seen any credible evidence of any networks other than AT&T
>> being involved.
>>
>> The rumors of something to do with a SIM database don’t explain all the
>> PRI trunks down, but those predated the mobile outages, so it might be two
>> unrelated issues.
>>
>>                 -Bill
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:12 PM, Dave Taht via Nnagain <
>> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:52 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain
>> > <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF
>> >
>> > I had feared this was the natural outgrowth of the devastating DNS
>> > KEYTRAP attack that was announced yesterday:
>> >
>> https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-widespread-internet-outages
>> >
>> > But so far the bet on nanog is that "oops, cisco deleted the sim
>> database."
>> >
>> > I think they are being snarky about "the" sim database. I´m pretty
>> > sure they are just being snarky...
>> >
>> >> A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile,
>> Verizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking
>> website Downdetector.com.
>> >>
>> >> The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30
>> a.m. ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status
>> reports from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform,
>> showed.
>> >>
>> >> More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and
>> T-Mobile were also reported on the platform.
>> >>
>> >> Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters'
>> requests for comment.
>> >>
>> >> And this -  I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing:
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll
>> >>
>> >> WASHINGTON (AP) — Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospitals
>> around the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling
>> operations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S.
>> government is doing too little prevent such breaches.
>> >>
>> >> Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology
>> to support everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient
>> records. Today, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold
>> systems' data and networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the
>> American Hospital Association’s cybersecurity adviser.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> David Bray, PhD Principal, LeadDoAdapt Ventures, Inc.
>> >> Loomis Innovation Council Co-Chair & Distinguished Fellow
>> >> Henry S. Stimson Center, Business Executives for National Security
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> Nnagain mailing list
>> >> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > 40 years of net history, a couple songs:
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
>> > Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Nnagain mailing list
>> > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
>>
>>
>
> --
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>
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[Bill Woodcock]

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> On Feb 23, 2024, at 00:42, Vint Cerf via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> Could some non-ATT outages be people trying to reach ATT destinations?

Yes, I think it’s very well established at this point that there were no associated simultaneous outages in any other networks, and that all of the “downdetector” things were just, as you say, people elsewhere trying to reach AT&T customers.

                                -Bill


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Re: [NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn

[Dave Taht]

A strong point for resilience can be made by noting that the wifi
component of the network remained up. We have more than just phone
numbers to communicate, being able to also layer voice over signal,
videoconferencing, facetime and a zillion other tools that did not go
down.

The best and most snarky response I have seen yet to the debacle thus
far was "Upgrade to room 641A went south".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 7:03 PM Bill Woodcock via Nnagain
<nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 23, 2024, at 00:42, Vint Cerf via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> > Could some non-ATT outages be people trying to reach ATT destinations?
>
> Yes, I think it’s very well established at this point that there were no associated simultaneous outages in any other networks, and that all of the “downdetector” things were just, as you say, people elsewhere trying to reach AT&T customers.
>
>                                 -Bill
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: [NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn

[le berger des photons]

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given the plus minus statistics of the american health care system putting
them out of business might save more lives than it takes, except that
they'll just kill those people later.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 10:11 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain <
nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:52 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain
> <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF
>
> I had feared this was the natural outgrowth of the devastating DNS
> KEYTRAP attack that was announced yesterday:
>
> https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-widespread-internet-outages
>
> But so far the bet on nanog is that "oops, cisco deleted the sim database."
>
> I think they are being snarky about "the" sim database. I´m pretty
> sure they are just being snarky...
>
> > A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile,
> Verizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking
> website Downdetector.com.
> >
> > The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30
> a.m. ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status
> reports from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform,
> showed.
> >
> > More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and
> T-Mobile were also reported on the platform.
> >
> > Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters'
> requests for comment.
> >
> > And this -  I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing:
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll
> >
> > WASHINGTON (AP) — Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospitals
> around the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling
> operations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S.
> government is doing too little prevent such breaches.
> >
> > Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology to
> support everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient records.
> Today, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold systems'
> data and networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the American
> Hospital Association’s cybersecurity adviser.
> >
> > --
> > David Bray, PhD Principal, LeadDoAdapt Ventures, Inc.
> > Loomis Innovation Council Co-Chair & Distinguished Fellow
> > Henry S. Stimson Center, Business Executives for National Security
> > _______________________________________________
> > Nnagain mailing list
> > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
>
>
>
> --
> 40 years of net history, a couple songs:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
> _______________________________________________
> Nnagain mailing list
> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
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>

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[David Bray, PhD]

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Recognizing that AT&T appears to have been an technical issue...
UnitedHealth Group on the otherhand is being reported as a cyberattack tied
to a nation-state:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/cyberattack-hits-unitedhealth-group-unit-by-actor-with-suspected-nation-state-ties/ar-BB1iJtnk

UnitedHealth Group disclosed Thursday one of its subsidiaries was hit this
week by a cyberattack from an actor with a suspected nation-state
association.

After detecting the incident, Minnetonka-based UnitedHealth said it
isolated the impacted information technology systems from other connecting
systems in order to contain, assess and remediate the problem.

UnitedHealth did not specify what the impacted systems are used for, but
Rhode Island-based CVS Health — one of the nation's largest pharmacy
operators — said some of its business operations were impacted by the
network interruption. CVS Health said there was no indication that its
systems had been compromised.

"We're continuing to fill prescriptions but in certain cases we are not
able to process insurance claims, which our business continuity plan is
addressing to ensure patients continue to have access to their
medications," the company said in a statement to the Star Tribune.

In a regulatory filing Thursday, UnitedHealth Group said it learned
Wednesday of a "nation-state associated cyber security threat actor" that
had gained access to some information technology systems at Change
Healthcare, a business unit that's part of the company's OptumInsight
division.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 4:38 PM le berger des photons via Nnagain <
nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> given the plus minus statistics of the american health care system putting
> them out of business might save more lives than it takes, except that
> they'll just kill those people later.
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 10:11 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain <
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:52 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain
>> <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF
>>
>> I had feared this was the natural outgrowth of the devastating DNS
>> KEYTRAP attack that was announced yesterday:
>>
>> https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-widespread-internet-outages
>>
>> But so far the bet on nanog is that "oops, cisco deleted the sim
>> database."
>>
>> I think they are being snarky about "the" sim database. I´m pretty
>> sure they are just being snarky...
>>
>> > A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile,
>> Verizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking
>> website Downdetector.com.
>> >
>> > The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30
>> a.m. ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status
>> reports from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform,
>> showed.
>> >
>> > More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and
>> T-Mobile were also reported on the platform.
>> >
>> > Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters'
>> requests for comment.
>> >
>> > And this -  I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing:
>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll
>> >
>> > WASHINGTON (AP) — Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospitals
>> around the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling
>> operations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S.
>> government is doing too little prevent such breaches.
>> >
>> > Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology
>> to support everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient
>> records. Today, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold
>> systems' data and networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the
>> American Hospital Association’s cybersecurity adviser.
>> >
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>> > David Bray, PhD Principal, LeadDoAdapt Ventures, Inc.
>> > Loomis Innovation Council Co-Chair & Distinguished Fellow
>> > Henry S. Stimson Center, Business Executives for National Security
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