[NNagain] Re: Net Neutrality - a battle in Europe: Deutsche Telekom case shines light on 'two-speed' internet

[Vint Cerf <vint@google.com>]

Frantisek,
how is a "fast lane" different from paying more for higher bandwidth? The
latter is pretty common and even understandable. In the US, neutrality
meant everyone has the same access rules which includes being able to pay
more for higher speed. The users got to determine what speed they wanted,
not the provider. Nor could the provider (ISP) choose arbitrarily which
services the user would get at what speed. The application providers,
similarly, get to choose what speed and cost they can provide service. In
all cases, the ISP does not get to dictate the speeds they offer to users
and application providers. The rule works more or less like common
carriage. You pay for what you get, the carrier has to offer all services
to all parties on the same terms.

v


On Fri, Nov 7, 2025 at 5:13 AM Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain <
nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> DT is at it again:
>
> https://euobserver.com/digital/ar5da666d9
>
> "Earlier this year, Austrian and German NGOs filed a complaint with the
> German Federal Network Agency against Deutsche Telekom, alleging that the
> internet service provider (ISP) is creating paid fast lanes to access
> websites.
>
> On Wednesday (5 November), the groups held a talk to outline their
> complaint and why it's important for Europe's net neutrality.
>
> The NGOs consists of Epicenter.works, the Society for Civil Rights, the
> Federation of German Consumer Organisations, plus Stanford professor
> Barbara van Schewick, arguing that Deutsche Telekom is creating a
> two-tiered internet through having web hosts pay extra for Telekom’s
> users."
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
>
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
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