From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf1-x42b.google.com (mail-pf1-x42b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::42b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 557EA3CB38 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2024 04:41:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pf1-x42b.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-6e5eb3dd2f8so2269307b3a.2 for ; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 01:41:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20230601; t=1709977283; x=1710582083; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=XHGd8+MSl6TFIHc5KevsNITRjb18RieYPuAgr/GXLx8=; b=vtcOyBWFYB14htgm9O5mky5865K7KOD1icu0qk3lQEy+uZqtXe5fDzoh+G9CFcz0Qw mOtLaciPl1pFwCu8+GEUq5QDGqsUPs3q98KwZBlEmX0gZ5Sg9mXY5uIQbB9ICAWUhEoA o6yY3om0/p0PC7jsvgRIKcwSGzif8gq0F4gckK6Ldxv50NHLMNQgC6l5a7Fw059jSqko kLUecLs4HPNusmSbzwuprjLb7TuVEWj/zoLXYleAbyeKraqtiEyN+6z6Mgk0mIaJOByA bEoMsdgB7rT6EUXxIwxNTIbBRgXza2DnhyneRWgmoKuNxFFWmzkJucdeuwaor4lOKlgR EmEg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1709977283; x=1710582083; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=XHGd8+MSl6TFIHc5KevsNITRjb18RieYPuAgr/GXLx8=; b=UioFgNvNfZiRiPuzNRoleSEAlkYmUsxQ8d3OXy08czvvsfWPhA6iwT/p69lta2pY6j 2PD1gLyF5qrq8HGmIOnD5+GOBFCcK6Q9zOnae5oHJjxhpT7X0ostHHwuFdQDIUUGe/Dd wvzwVbYDgtbowRecYkoMQxEZUkRtSVTiyvVBjvRFschmqp5Jm+PoVV4i0TiyHOS8or7/ HOcovJG9Iw5GRoeyR+NRnGwjM/V2ilEsvhUY5ALuEirail6aFiiQp8sysCqigSqpp0+K tcPuBi/cTUbnM+rij35ke/I5KnnExRRAaOd6c3rDSMY1cyH/D5hSfwugCUyxEfVDThqu 4LSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz5hSrnIULw0geRYZePvdlxvwYBk6Gio18q8WQCWFLMAFu3EvM1 72bWYx2RuASHDBOPrnimmOPxs1z/DrqXgKYOhuzOamVWGg+WEykfvkPsKc+eGsEKPbKI9yVBACP oqxXkF6ITM5fvcKpBSjunsCezWvt8WhAjcdwB16HSoHVkd424Ig== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHNSJFuqTrU93+rAVJI0ov32sWe2ewmJ3AIk1+NQDtVhWSWRlGN0vF3/mKm3bhk6AyrpuQOumLQox445C3pUQ4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a21:3986:b0:1a1:4df8:1ec4 with SMTP id ad6-20020a056a21398600b001a14df81ec4mr861972pzc.19.1709977282773; Sat, 09 Mar 2024 01:41:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Vint Cerf Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 04:41:10 -0500 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Cc: "Douglas Goncz A.A.S. M.E.T. 1990" Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="0000000000008db51a0613371c10" Subject: Re: [NNagain] Flash priority X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2024 09:41:25 -0000 --0000000000008db51a0613371c10 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000083ce340613371cae" --00000000000083ce340613371cae Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Flash priority is a long dead leftover from US DoD attempt to map its AUTODIN messaging system priorities to Internet packets. Never implemented and, as has been mentioned, ignored for all practical purposes. v On Fri, Mar 8, 2024 at 9:31=E2=80=AFPM Douglas Goncz A.A.S. M.E.T. 1990 via= Nnagain wrote: > One of the things that affects net neutrality and latency is packet > priority and also density of traffic > > Most of you here probably know there's a flash bit that can be set in a > packet to indicated top priority > > My question firstly is flash traffic legally restricted on the Internet o= r > can I upload any priority I wish to send? > > My question secondly is since I already have firstnet which many of you > may not know about, > > Let me describe that firstly > > And I think it was 2012 after 9/11 of 2001 the legislature enacted what > was to become firstnet who now provided as AT&T sole source > > Firstnet reserves band 14 of lte traffic for exclusive use of first > responders communicating with each other including dispatch > > Certain work I do makes me eligible for firstnet plus I feel a lot of > paperwork to get that filled out a lot of paperwork to get that > > Excuse me I can't keyboard it's the microphone doing that > > So my second question is assuming you know what firstnet is already would > I as a firstnet connected person be able to send a flash priority packet = if > needed? > > > Third question is > > Is anyone doing CSD these days? For those of you who don't know CSD takes > a hell of a lot of man with to get a little bit of data through but it is > capable of sending a secure fax when needed substituting bandwidth for th= e > word man GM sorry. > > So my hands shake and I can't use the keyboard and I have ADHD which > leaves errors in place for this I apologize > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > --=20 Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to: Vint Cerf Google, LLC 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor Reston, VA 20190 +1 (571) 213 1346 until further notice --00000000000083ce340613371cae Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Flash priority is a long dead leftover from US DoD attempt= to map its AUTODIN messaging system priorities to Internet packets.=C2=A0<= div>Never implemented and, as has been mentioned, ignored for all practical= purposes.

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My question secondly is since = I already have firstnet which many of you may not know about,

Let me describe that firstly

And I think it was 2012 after 9/= 11 of 2001 the legislature enacted what was to become firstnet who now prov= ided as AT&T sole source

Firstnet reserves band 14 of lte traffic for exclusive use of first re= sponders communicating with each other including dispatch

Certain work I do makes me eligible for f= irstnet plus I feel a lot of paperwork to get that filled out a lot of pape= rwork to get that

Excuse= me I can't keyboard it's the microphone doing that

So my second question is assuming you= know what firstnet is already would I as a firstnet connected person be ab= le to send a flash priority packet if needed?


Third question is

Is anyone doing CSD these days?= For those of you who don't know CSD takes a hell of a lot of man with = to get a little bit of data through but it is capable of sending a secure f= ax when needed substituting bandwidth for the word man GM sorry.

So my hands shake and I can't = use the keyboard and I have ADHD which leaves errors in place for this I ap= ologize
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