sounds like a sunk cost argument. v On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:58 AM Robert McMahon via Nnagain < nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > The hard part is life support systems and not so much the rockets. Musk > handwaves and claims life support is easy, both on Mars and in the > spacecraft t/fro. The song reveals it's not so easy to keep humans healthy > and well, even on this earth where humans evolved to survive. > > Musk constantly fails in his claims. His cult like following demonstrates > Festinger's When Phrophecy Fails. Failed prophecy which, counter to > intuition, strengthens the cult's belief in their leader. It's an illness > and not something to promote by my judgment. I think us selecting leaders > and peers that work from a basis of reality is they way to improve things. > See the world as it is. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails > > " the team had seen that in some cases the failure of a prophecy, rather > than causing a rejection of the original belief system, could lead > believers to increase their personal commitment, and also increase their > efforts to recruit others into the belief" > > > > On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, 6:14 PM Dave Taht wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 10:46 AM Robert McMahon >> wrote: >> >>> SpaceX is no better than NASA by my opinion. A proper critique was done >>> in 1970 and still applies today. See link. I grew up in Houston & with >>> astronauts & their kids because LBJ was from Texas. Seen space projects my >>> entire life. Focus should be on our planet and robots on the others. The >>> ego centric view of manned space flight is an illness by my opinion. >>> >>> https://youtu.be/wtSSP8FVUGY?feature=shared >>> >> >> Hey, thx. I had heard of, but not heard, that poem before. >> >> As a counter, for the inspiring need for humans in space: try: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1ixTr4JWY&t=50s >> >> Otherwise I do generally prefer robotic exploration. Building and flying >> modernized versions of this would be fun: >> https://dartslab.jpl.nasa.gov/References/pdf/2019-mars-heli.pdf >> >> hopefully tomorrow Hera launches! >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024, 7:03 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain < >>> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2024/10/02/sls-is-still-a-national-disgrace/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Nnagain mailing list >>>> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net >>>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos >> > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > -- Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to: Vint Cerf Google, LLC 1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor Reston, VA 20190 +1 (571) 213 1346 until further notice