The hard part is life support systems and not so much the rockets. Musk handwaves and claims life support is easy, both on Mars and in the spacecraft t/fro. The song reveals it's not so easy to keep humans healthy and well, even on this earth where humans evolved to survive.

Musk constantly fails in his claims. His cult like following demonstrates Festinger's When Phrophecy Fails. Failed prophecy which, counter to intuition, strengthens the cult's belief in their leader. It's an illness and not something to promote by my judgment. I think us selecting leaders and peers that work from a basis of reality is they way to improve things. See the world as it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails

" the team had seen that in some cases the failure of a prophecy, rather than causing a rejection of the original belief system, could lead believers to increase their personal commitment, and also increase their efforts to recruit others into the belief"

On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, 6:14 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 10:46 AM Robert McMahon <rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com> wrote:

SpaceX is no better than NASA by my opinion. A proper critique was done in 1970 and still applies today. See link. I grew up in Houston & with astronauts & their kids because LBJ was from Texas. Seen space projects my entire life. Focus should be on our planet and robots on the others. The ego centric view of manned space flight is an illness by my opinion. 

https://youtu.be/wtSSP8FVUGY?feature=shared

Hey, thx. I had heard of, but not heard, that poem before.

As a counter, for the inspiring need for humans in space: try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1ixTr4JWY&t=50s

Otherwise I do generally prefer robotic exploration. Building and flying modernized versions of this would be fun: https://dartslab.jpl.nasa.gov/References/pdf/2019-mars-heli.pdf

hopefully tomorrow Hera launches!

 

Bob

On Thu, Oct 3, 2024, 7:03 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2024/10/02/sls-is-still-a-national-disgrace/

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