Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!
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From: Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>
To: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
	heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] The Verge: The quiet plan to make the internet feel faster
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 10:50:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJUtOOgtZReBCJPQpwziu6Fs+z2cxiDXV0OFpm4tV-d5NmWRpg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <826a0d77-b6b8-423d-a094-93d75840fa90@rjmcmahon.com>


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Top story on HN:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38597744

My pick for top comment:



A possible L4S end game? 😁


All the best,

Frank
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 at 7:22 PM, Robert McMahon via Nnagain <
nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Sorry, this isn't a very good technical analysis. It's a push agenda for
> AQM. I get that many people's egos are tied to their belief that my
> algorithm came down from God himself. It's not true though.
>
>
> Bob
> On Dec 10, 2023, at 3:12 AM, Sauli Kiviranta via Nnagain <
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> I find it alarming for the future of internet that there is a trend to
>> use elbowing techniques to squeeze metrics out at the expense of all
>> other flows. We know that when nobody plays fair the arms race ends
>> badly.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sauli
>>
>> On 12/10/23, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>>>  Well, to be completely honest, I would say its about general public, really
>>>  - it’s an article in The Verge :-)
>>>
>>>  But yeah. Here’s something they should address:
>>>
>>>  https://github.com/heistp/l4s-tests#key-findings
>>>
>>>  In general - a potential harm to innocent bystanders is a biggest L4S
>>>  problem:
>>>  https://www.linkedin.com/posts/frantisekborsik_jonathanmorton-l4s-ietf118-activity-7128317873571176448-GWAX
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  All the best,
>>>
>>>  Frank
>>>  Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>>>
>>>  https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
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>>>  iMessage, mobile: +420775230885
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>>>
>>>
>>>  On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 at 5:48 AM, Matt Mathis via Nnagain <
>>>  nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  About L4S
>>>>
>>>>  https://www.theverge.com/23655762/l4s-internet-apple-comcast-latency-speed-bandwidth
>>>>
>>>>  It says something about their target audience that they feel they need to
>>>>  explain bytes vs bits.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>  --MM--
>>>>  Evil is defined by mortals who think they know "The Truth" and use force
>>>>  to apply it to others.
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-11  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-10  4:48 Matt Mathis
2023-12-10  6:54 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-10 11:12   ` Sauli Kiviranta
2023-12-10 18:21     ` Robert McMahon
2023-12-11  9:50       ` Frantisek Borsik [this message]
     [not found]         ` <4C2CA220-A7EF-4198-BE6C-A2FC979A1F8D@gmx.de>
2023-12-11 10:18           ` Frantisek Borsik
     [not found]             ` <E96CB707-1BDE-48F6-A09F-2229FDBA372A@gmx.de>
2023-12-11 19:33               ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-11 14:54         ` Livingood, Jason
2023-12-11 18:51           ` rjmcmahon
2023-12-11 19:25             ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-11 15:13       ` Livingood, Jason
2023-12-11 14:56 ` Livingood, Jason

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