Hey Bob, I don't think that improving latency is about mandating of a specific algorithm - it's about an improvements to broadband definition. Broadband that servers the needs of us all today, goes beyond 100/20, it's should include a low latency, low consistent jitter. Now, what are the right numbers, that's another discussion. But it's a discussion we need to have. I would certainly let market to decide on the tools/algorithms that will achieve those numbers - be it a Quality of Experience middle box (like LibreQoS, Preseem, Bequand/Cambium Networks QoE, Paraqum or Sandvine), L4S etc. As for the other issues that need some love - for example, making vendors to update kernel and provide updates to routers they sold, that's a good thing. All the best, Frank Frantisek (Frank) Borsik https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 Skype: casioa5302ca frantisek.borsik@gmail.com On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 5:33 PM Robert McMahon via Nnagain < nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > As for "what the FCC can do", "dissolve itself" comes to mind. AFAIK, > it's been over a decade since they have done anything helpful or useful for > any American citizen who isn't the head of a major corporation. If you > delete the entire organization, there will be no one around to enforce > whatever regs are still on the books so who cares? ... and you'll save > another few 10's of millions of dollars annually which will fit nicely in > the pockets of the "good folks", aka FODT. 😊😊😊 > > > I worked with a CA state regulator in a tech support role prior to > so-called broadband (actually, internet access beyond dial-up MODEMs) > This was post 1996 telco act, just prior to the dot com bubble. The > lobbyists at the time disliked having 50 States regulating things. > They pushed made it so the 5 commissioners on the FCC became the > primary regulators. Many call this regulatory capture. > > Unfortunately, I don't think we can get rid of the FCC. Our utility > poles are mostly regulated by them as one example. > > I also don't think the FCC can mandage any specific AQM algorithm. > That's a long term disaster in the making for sure. Let network > engineers and the market battle that out. > > Bob > > PS. Good to hear from you RR - i hope all is well. I've got a Fi-Wi > project you may be interested in - not sure. > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain >