Thank you very much for this, Daniel. Safe travels, and enjoy your trip. I hope to do it one day as well, to commemorate Dave (and I need to do a lot of other things we were planning to do together, like to attend SpaceX launch etc.) Here is a reminder of Dave's Amtrak trip, if you want to refresh you memory or missed it back then, in 2023: https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/nnagain/2023-October/000286.html Dave was heading to Netdev 0x17 in Vancouver. His talks and music from the event, if anyone is interested, can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E and https://youtu.be/rWnb543Sdk8?si=9LAEGpfBo2M5RX9X&t=2599 All the best, Frank Frantisek (Frank) Borsik *In loving memory of Dave Täht: *1965-2025 https://libreqos.io/2025/04/01/in-loving-memory-of-dave/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 Skype: casioa5302ca frantisek.borsik@gmail.com On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 3:21 AM Daniel Ezell wrote: > Taking the Coast Starlight tonight. Wanted to compare notes with Dave > about it. Sad to have missed the opportunity. So this trip is a memorial to > a great guy I never got to meet. > Daniel Ezell > > On Oct 28, 2023, at 3:51 AM, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain < > nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >  > I just can't even. So many garbage ideas out of Brussels as of late. DSA, > DMA, DSM... GDPR in the past, or even that horrible CRA = Cyber Resilience > Act: > > > https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2022/10/the-eus-proposed-cyber-resilience-act-will-damage-the-open-source-ecosystem/ > https://blog.nlnetlabs.nl/open-source-software-vs-the-cyber-resilience-act/ > > Good intentions don't count, bad results do. Most of the evil in this > world was done by people with good intentions and this is not an exception. > > > All the best, > > Frank > > Frantisek (Frank) Borsik > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik > > Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 > > iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 > > Skype: casioa5302ca > > frantisek.borsik@gmail.com > > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 1:45 AM Dave Taht via Nnagain < > nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 4:23 PM Nathan Simington via Nnagain >> wrote: >> > >> > This has gone from mere cost-shifting to protocol takeover. >> Self-hosting is essentially dead because you are guaranteed to get filtered >> by Outlook and Gmail, which means that there is de facto embrace-and-extend >> -- "best viewed in Internet Explorer at 800x600" but for a core standard. >> >> This is one of those things that could be reversed if there was law >> guaranteeing freedom of communications. That really does not seem to >> be the way the world is going, however. >> >> See: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/ for example. >> >> I like email (and netnews). You had a copy, the recipients had copies, >> and pretty much anyone that had the capability of snooping in-between >> had copies. Nobody ever got arround to making starttls mandatory. >> Compare this to all the even more centralized, but incompatible chat >> systems since, multiple ones that have vanished from the web (g+), and >> others that are barely hanging on, like disquis. >> >> Even with the flight to mastodon and other heavily encrypted home >> server technologies, email remains the most common, useful and >> malleable public identifier for connecting people to people. I would >> like to make it better, for everyone, again. >> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 5:48 PM Hal Murray via Nnagain < >> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> [Was Amtrack] >> >> >> >> >> >> > 2) I could get mad that I figure 80% of this new email list is >> vanishing into >> >> > spam boxes. >> >> >> >> >> >> > What of the 10s of thousands of other emails that have come over the >> years >> >> > not just from lists.bufferbloat.net but from people trying honestly >> to >> >> > communicate? >> >> >> >> There is/was a good discussion of all the good things that network >> geeks have >> >> done. >> >> >> >> How about discussing the things they haven't done? >> >> >> >> Spam would be pretty high on my list. It's tangled up with >> (in)security -- a >> >> lot comes from infected systems or phished accounts. >> >> >> >> The current approach to spam is cost shifting. If you don't pay for >> your >> >> abuse desk, the crap that you send or phishing sites you host..., >> means that >> >> the rest of the net has to spend more on defense. >> >> >> >> Anybody remember Spamford Wallace? He was going to setup a spam >> friendly ISP. >> >> Nobody would connect to him. I wonder what would happen if a few >> ISPs that >> >> host a lot of abuse had more troubles getting connected to the net. >> Would a >> >> few well publicized examples be enough to spread the word? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> High on my list would be dis/mis-information. The business model >> seems to be >> >> to show customers things that will keep them online so you can show >> them more >> >> ads. Gues what does that? >> >> >> >> Is this also cost shifting? It's society as a whole that has to pay >> for the >> >> disruption caused by bogus information. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> These are my opinions. 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