Such a great thing to read! Another LibreQoS man aboard. Btw, Ignacio might be here, but cc'ing him anyway. All the best, Frank Frantisek (Frank) Borsik https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 iMessage, mobile: +420775230885 Skype: casioa5302ca frantisek.borsik@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 7:44 PM le berger des photons via Nnagain < nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > you've convinced me to go see libre qos. thanks. > > On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 7:04 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain < > nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> I loved that this guy and his ISP burned a couple weeks learning how >> to build openwrt, built something exactly to the need, *had it work >> the first time* and are in progress to update in place 200+ routers to >> better router software, that just works, with videoconferencing, IPv6 >> support, and OTA functionality. No need for a truck roll, and while >> the available bandwidth deep in these mountains in Mexico is meager, >> it is now enough for most purposes. >> >> >> https://blog.nafiux.com/posts/cnpilot_r190w_openwrt_bufferbloat_fqcodel_cake/ >> >> I have no idea how many of this model routers were sold or are still >> deployed (?), but the modest up front cost of this sort of development >> dwarves that of deployment. Ongoing maintenance is a problem, but at >> least they are in a position now to rapidly respond to CVEs and other >> problems when they happen, having "seized control of the methods of >> computation" again. >> >> OpenWrt is known to run on 1700 different models, already, (with easy >> ports to obscure ones like this box) - going back over a decade in >> some cases. >> >> Another favorite story of mine was the ISP in New Zealand that >> deployed LibreQos and had all their support calls (from gamers and >> videoconferencers) cease overnight. The support tech, formerly drowned >> in angst from the users, set to work automating an reflashing 600 old >> agw routers they had "retired" on the shelf, and then distributing >> them to customers as extenders because the wifi finally worked right >> with the fq_codel stuff now in that release. >> >> I feel like I am tooting my own horn here a bit too much, but solving >> the right problems like MTTR, MTBF, bufferbloat, and taking back >> control of your software infrastructure while being able to customize >> it for purpose, and turning what otherwise would be ewaste into >> something that will last a decade more, is my inner "green", my inner >> stewart brand. >> >> Compare that to so many others being marketed to, to death, that buy >> the latest (and often inferior) thing, every few months, perpetually >> fooled by promises that do not pay off in the field, and often, really >> lousy MTBF. Good embedded software takes many years to develop, say, >> oh, 7, while the hardware cycle is closer to 2, nowadays, and requires >> many eyeballs to fully debug and get to lots of 9s of reliability. >> >> Back when I was even more radical about good, open, embedded, software >> than now, I used to say: "Friends don't let friends run factory >> firmware.". I do wish somehow the long term maintence costs of >> hardware with a decade plus service lifetime would be adaquately >> covered. Insurance? by law? a formal setaside from the purchase price? >> Otherwise we run the risk of turning the world's internet into a giant >> toxic waste dump that will require Superfund levels of cleanup, one >> day, and ever more contributions to trillions of dollars of fraud, and >> persistent actors having first broken down the front door, perpetually >> on the inside, wreaking more havoc. Somehow preventing that mess, up >> front, seems cheaper. >> >> Take this string of vulns: >> https://www.google.com/search?q=cisco+router+vulnerability >> >> (try that search string with *any* manufacturer - juniper, netgear, >> tplink, >> >> There is a new vuln going around about some very old software in a >> cisco mx series which is ancient and yet 100k+ are vulnerable - (I >> worked on this while at montavista in the early 00s!) - abandonware, >> toxic waste... >> >> Anyway, in Mexico at least, 200+ routers are going to be a lot better, >> through the actions of all that contribute to linux, openwrt, and one >> smart and caring engineer. >> >> -- >> Oct 30: >> https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html >> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos >> _______________________________________________ >> Nnagain mailing list >> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain >> > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain >