From: Sauli Kiviranta <smksauli@gmail.com>
To: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] The Verge: The quiet plan to make the internet feel faster
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 13:12:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJbqEYAbAntNZTB-eH+gkjgHjFeh8DL-kFkJKcO-UzcmtE=dkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJUtOOidWrXn0aOJtZXGP4FdRt_hjmaT1y1RxA9uFix1cN1FZQ@mail.gmail.com>
I find it alarming for the future of internet that there is a trend to
use elbowing techniques to squeeze metrics out at the expense of all
other flows. We know that when nobody plays fair the arms race ends
badly.
Best regards,
Sauli
On 12/10/23, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> Well, to be completely honest, I would say its about general public, really
> - it’s an article in The Verge :-)
>
> But yeah. Here’s something they should address:
>
> https://github.com/heistp/l4s-tests#key-findings
>
> In general - a potential harm to innocent bystanders is a biggest L4S
> problem:
> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/frantisekborsik_jonathanmorton-l4s-ietf118-activity-7128317873571176448-GWAX
>
>
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Frank
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>
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> On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 at 5:48 AM, Matt Mathis via Nnagain <
> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> About L4S
>>
>> https://www.theverge.com/23655762/l4s-internet-apple-comcast-latency-speed-bandwidth
>>
>> It says something about their target audience that they feel they need to
>> explain bytes vs bits.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --MM--
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>> to apply it to others.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-12-10 11:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-12-10 4:48 Matt Mathis
2023-12-10 6:54 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-10 11:12 ` Sauli Kiviranta [this message]
2023-12-10 18:21 ` Robert McMahon
2023-12-11 9:50 ` Frantisek Borsik
[not found] ` <4C2CA220-A7EF-4198-BE6C-A2FC979A1F8D@gmx.de>
2023-12-11 10:18 ` Frantisek Borsik
[not found] ` <E96CB707-1BDE-48F6-A09F-2229FDBA372A@gmx.de>
2023-12-11 19:33 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-11 14:54 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-12-11 18:51 ` rjmcmahon
2023-12-11 19:25 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-11 15:13 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-12-11 14:56 ` Livingood, Jason
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