Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!
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From: Sauli Kiviranta <smksauli@gmail.com>
To: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
	heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] CFP march 1 - network measurement conference
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:46:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJbqEYCkt=qmeeXqYN0NJG_Diu1+px4qHY=zTyHLGTa8MU4f3w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4GAQh6R5CAmSjz0LR3GLKnQ+aew=tAqxEZ+h=oc3cm1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for sharing! This looks very promising!

What would be a comprehensive measurement? Should cover all/most relevant areas?

Payload Size: The size of data being transmitted.
Event Rate: The frequency at which payloads are transmitted.
Bitrate: The combination of rate and size transferred in a given test.
Bandwidth: The data transfer capacity available on the test path.
Throughput: The data transfer capability achieved on the test path.
Transfer Efficiency: The ratio of useful payload data to the overhead data.
Round-Trip Time (RTT): The ping delay time to the target server and back.
RTT Jitter: The variation in the delay of round-trip time.
Latency: The transmission delay time to the target server and back.
Latency Jitter: The variation in delay of latency.
Bit Error Rate: The corrupted bits as a percentage of the total
transmitted data.
Packet Loss: The percentage of packets lost that needed to be recovered.
Energy Efficiency: The amount of energy consumed to achieve the test result.

Did I overlook something? Too many dimensions to cover? Obviously some
of those are derived, so not part of the whole set as such.

Maybe then next would be to have different profiles where any of those
parameters may vary over the test run. e.g. profiles that model
congested base stations for mobile data. Different use case specific
payload profiles e.g. gop for video transfer?

Best regards,
Sauli


On 12/6/23, Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> This CFP looks pretty good to me: https://tma.ifip.org/2024/call-for-papers/
>
> Because:
>
> ¨To further encourage the results’ faithfulness and avoid publication
> bias, the conference will particularly encourage negative results
> revealed by novel measurement methods or vantage points. All regular
> papers are hence encouraged to discuss the limitations of the
> presented approaches and also mention which experiments did not work.
> Additionally, TMA will also be open to accepting papers that
> exclusively deal with negative results, especially when new
> measurement methods or perspectives offer insight into the limitations
> and challenges of network measurement in practice. Negative results
> will be evaluated based on their impact (e.g. revealed in realistic
> production networks) as well as the novelty of the vantage points
> (e.g. scarce data source) or measurement techniques that revealed
> them."
>
>
> --
> :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab
> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-06 21:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-06 20:00 Dave Taht
2023-12-06 21:46 ` Sauli Kiviranta [this message]
2023-12-07  1:54   ` Jack Haverty
2023-12-07  2:22   ` Bill Woodcock
2023-12-07 14:16     ` [NNagain] [Bloat] " Kathleen Nichols
2023-12-08  6:03     ` [NNagain] " rjmcmahon

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