From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk1-xa29.google.com (mail-vk1-xa29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a29]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DA993B29D for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 17:22:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-vk1-xa29.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-4ecfbf16c77so49346e0c.3 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:22:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1718832158; x=1719436958; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=Aam3z3qMHTYRO/tMiF/M4fjmeQd3ufl83y1z+hAfGDQ=; b=Mz4rENcQ8mRiuMw2IZuFcALM9brLb5XdjGJWEtpGw1dIGxp8GscL/WkMRxV4ETgQ5u kZPL26cdEDRO1Bu7kWTkWkyWx4KFDjOR3/QY4pveKK0IL2qOojeoAInCRREnBrCKcwgX jkQ3yghvCFd0BAusrEl4gaNYDyFN2L9T7tDNB+uW47eR71XnbRjiaDFLkh6+vSxFqp9r ZzkGWA9h95zH8ogyXjDszOyQJnezfGoquqT+ZID1dJ/FloIjIMNoaIKG3E8RWdbg7co+ FEwOl2LgyK9N0dbOj81vJVcNc8UCEE9qz3Bl4eaao7jHptQ/6tuzfr35fuAIRxz1IBc3 3yqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1718832158; x=1719436958; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=Aam3z3qMHTYRO/tMiF/M4fjmeQd3ufl83y1z+hAfGDQ=; b=j2zsF5w7PjlB+3/t6098M+ODjxQeDngojdDhkQDp85GO/OHFgO9oAqWtSYT51VAcFW VlCAdAO7tbgrhs8LCiJZ/0iuT1C/T85VIxPyF23imWZp8ZaQ5rztznfcCOxqrrmSiWPQ hoGJomxlbIOS4HCTCocekeXGg6zx/liduWxxV6GCtm5kxzzPgVWCM/A0k1Yd/RVrbcp8 wlq4YZ28jyEQA5ZkGlBvM1T0j3dFABtXqLz7CZ2DFEHHcNH9vau3xfw9tCLs9TYrt3du beydjLWMlh69UQ4ap1ZIV4tjCMRPMoOrgcDQlavTi7OiiUOmFwUcA1a0t/zI28FWuRP7 v5jQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyDR3UnNuHc0PH22cq88b4iGcHmzSoFnyTy/nrgUfMsZvCsdRav BrXzpgURaij/+4liwER0R+y/1ulxLc+Gw2nOM1e4Tz6xW3T13+BMpal/JEPLGKT4eI3A2JJfglV /wJ0VFTLT6CSPiuGsBSnwRQpQk2l2adMxPrY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHz81uGUOUu8QVZgUOuzTZPdgOJnFlUmNtyUhB26/cLL/7GZb0yxFXLT6rdiU1Lor7QulUqLiQGdXNdqZZvbr4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:552:b0:4d3:3952:1d1a with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-4ef276f3f55mr4281571e0c.4.1718832157975; Wed, 19 Jun 2024 14:22:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: thejoff@gmail.com From: le berger des photons Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 23:22:22 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000346cfd061b44ccf5" Subject: Re: [NNagain] Carr blasts BEAD X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2024 21:22:39 -0000 --000000000000346cfd061b44ccf5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable maybe they'll pay some attention to you in 18 months when the only ISP doing well will be ones that are either owned by the Rothschilds or trade a month of internet for some eggs and a chicken. On Wed, Jun 19, 2024 at 10:57=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Nnagain < nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Some good rhetoric here: https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC > > I have been boggling at some of the hurdles required to get this funding. > I gave up on BEAD last year, as the goalposts seem to be forever receding > and mounted on unicorns dancing on cotton candy clouds. I know there is > more progress being made than meets the eye, but to me it's in spite of > BEAD, rather than because of it. ("in spite" meaning - you are going to > subsidize WHAT??) > > My pithy comment about the "fiber party". > > Bead has provided employment to a lot of telephone polishers, political > hacks, and paper pushers. I tried to point out that many of the goals cou= ld > be achieved by better software on wireless networks; the fiber party took > it over. And oh! Did they party! > > https://x.com/mtaht/status/1803510661093392667 > > And for the records, I actually rather liked the ACP program. And LibreQo= s > passed 154 ISPs deploying it yesterday. > > -- > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7203400057172180992/ > Donations Drive. > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > --000000000000346cfd061b44ccf5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
maybe they'll pay some attention to you in 18 months w= hen the only ISP doing well will be ones that are either owned by the Roths= childs or trade a month of internet for some eggs and a chicken.
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On Wed,= Jun 19, 2024 at 10:57=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wro= te:
Some good rhetoric here: https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC

I have been boggling at some of the hurdles required to get this funding.= I gave up on BEAD last year, as the goalposts seem to be forever receding = and mounted on unicorns dancing on cotton candy clouds. I know there is mor= e progress being made than meets the eye, but to me it's in spite of BE= AD, rather than because of it. ("in spite" meaning - you are goin= g to subsidize WHAT??)=C2=A0

My pithy comment abou= t the "fiber party".

Bead has provided emplo= yment to a lot of telephone polishers, political hacks, and paper pushers. = I tried to point out that many of the goals could be achieved by better sof= tware on wireless networks; the fiber party took it over. And oh! Did they = party!

https://x.com/mtaht/status/18035106= 61093392667

And for the records, I actually = rather liked the ACP program. And LibreQos passed 154 ISPs deploying it yes= terday.

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