From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oa1-x2a.google.com (mail-oa1-x2a.google.com [IPv6:2001:4860:4864:20::2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BF243B29D for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 07:23:30 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-oa1-x2a.google.com with SMTP id 586e51a60fabf-2041e117abaso1033927fac.0 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 04:23:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1703247810; x=1703852610; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=r2aoH159OhZAc450AvEMCqX7Ke8OqiaYqXu3lnuB7Cw=; b=kAl1pwdt2RuMAFdHbLLPAEhmMQWxsVay/bEaFAJruxWCJu8HpvjfPKWKXm1RQSCljq 5aC/olOslclYI9wBka553groewTYUGNFgO5f6gfIgxOXWZkKpeMfcSx2eERJv8CydsTb NviCHxSgpL0CX8Ks1Pa0MVOgVasTwz8Fmy5aw6e2fSoxGVKnMDurldCLIK78/jxk3JjJ MlME34Cp0Xsyq9LzcCIHF/Vl+tcaX2LVFgNDdtOfNmwHvS5TzTzqa8rRHsB1iJKmh0la sX8lk3mkyptTQvvELTZ38gtN8Aa0E7ovw9jSB1LXwHBs7IdEGKe66YN2aB2N5blW46PT tDNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1703247810; x=1703852610; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=r2aoH159OhZAc450AvEMCqX7Ke8OqiaYqXu3lnuB7Cw=; b=JU3Cnp9M0cSvFjsbNy5BbiyGyrokk2Hf/tvdh/NrbuxsFFjizjOGsBsGAp3lxJZMHK jgj2jiZD07dwhO2EJXVqi4xYOLsNRf+htDUFe57jtpSX2uSb/+GcntuIwSUsdv5kJuPL 7fDvP/vrqsNSNMfpmJr4gfjh5ih7ovxYvrrjaCutdWdJS0xcPiDXvshyMhIN3T0oYj8O JFfo6rVshdUgRIXR7cA1uiNSOCjhPTGwrvgLPD42qTh/Y1bMhrD1Jwjo36MFFp68rjtc noAI6ZL935C9FWkq2uWUwYQ2fnSShFUI6VVdCxptoVdecZHy1IYk9xhUjijX1u0c1zzY PlkA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yzw7/ETDTfP6ZXvISEyX7wLCMf0oJ3wBm7PW826w5p7uBt5N88x WHJuoLSuwApC80gwxGl/+NqQzO+r5+QemWXn82bO335QhAAXsxMU X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGtr/tZGfXQhyB4ZaSTWBeKEe+hHqVmfMgBuU7UAw3LL431Qvy+pEpro/OETpSmieYbpv0AVZZ1vtFvcP6pHFQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:1717:b0:204:8b8:9bc8 with SMTP id h23-20020a056870171700b0020408b89bc8mr1115629oae.116.1703247810095; Fri, 22 Dec 2023 04:23:30 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <02cc2879-ef99-4388-bc1e-335a4aaff6aa@gmail.com> <18A40E71-F636-41A9-A8A7-0F4F69E3C99F@gmx.de> <650s1558-6310-063q-s5q2-o782rnnoss29@ynat.uz> <471154o6-no08-67or-p1o2-np919ro26osp@ynat.uz> <05ef1cd50d0e0a681b2cd38b1bdeb0a9@rjmcmahon.com> <4p61qp8r-p1p1-r83r-n283-315548o163po@ynat.uz> <045p54s4-r8p3-o2s7-7qq2-r2p6o28ss7q1@ynat.uz> <91B34F49-D567-4ED2-84CC-EFDBF9895725@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <91B34F49-D567-4ED2-84CC-EFDBF9895725@gmail.com> Reply-To: thejoff@mail.com From: le berger des photons Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 13:23:20 +0100 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000af6dd6060d184817" Subject: Re: [NNagain] detecting GPT-generated text X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 12:23:31 -0000 --000000000000af6dd6060d184817 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable cut out the middleman and eliminate the 30 page paper. just keep the oral. On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:49=E2=80=AFPM Rich Brown via Nnagain < nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > Sorry, OT: but I couldn't resist... > > On Dec 19, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink < > starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > I asked a few persons around how could one identify GPT-generated text? > > > I recently heard a radio interview with a college professor who was > changing his assignments (especially the standard 30-page paper) in the > face of ChatGPT. His (semi-humorous) metric for detecting AI-generated > content was the lack of spelling or grammar errors... > > Rich > > PS He did have a serious plan: ask each student to give a 15-minute > presentation on the topic that would have been the subject of that 30 pag= e > paper. It takes the same time (or less!) to assess the work, and gives a > personal connection with the students... > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > --000000000000af6dd6060d184817 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
cut out the middleman and eliminate the 30 page paper.=C2= =A0 just keep the oral.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 9:49=E2=80=AFPM Rich Bro= wn via Nnagain <nnagain= @lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
Sorry, OT: = but I couldn't resist...

On = Dec 19, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink <starlink@lists.buffe= rbloat.net> wrote:

I asked a few persons around how could one identify GPT-generated= text?=C2=A0

I recently heard a rad= io interview with a college professor who was changing his assignments (esp= ecially the standard 30-page paper) in the face of ChatGPT. His (semi-humor= ous) metric for detecting AI-generated content was the lack of spelling or = grammar errors...

Rich

PS= He did have a serious plan: ask each student to give a 15-minute presentat= ion on the topic that would have been the subject of that 30 page paper. It= takes the same time (or less!) to assess the work, and gives a personal co= nnection with the students...
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