Re: [NNagain] A quick report from the WISPA conference

[le berger des photons <thejoff@gmail.com>]

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but you can see if it's doing what you want it to and you can compare it to
other products in the same space.

On Fri, Nov 17, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jack Haverty via Nnagain <
nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> On 11/17/23 11:27, Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote:
>
> one of the things we really wished existed was a standardized way to
> test latency and throughput to routers. It would be super helpful if
> there was a standard in consumer routers that allowed users to both ping
>  and fetch 0kB fils from their routers, and also run download/upload
> tests.
>
>
> Back when I was involved in operating a network, we tried to track latency
> and throughput by standard ping and related tests.  We discovered that, in
> addition to the network conditions, the results were often dependent on the
> particular equipment and software involved at the time.   Some companies
> treated ping traffic (e.g., anything directed to the "echo" port) as low
> priority since it was obviously (to them) less important than any other
> traffic.   Others treated such traffic as high priority - it made their
> results in review articles look better.
>
> In another case we discovered one brand of desktop computer was achieved
> much higher throughputs over the net than similar products from other
> manufacturers.  It took some serious technical investigation but we
> eventually discovered that the high throughput was achieved by violating
> the Ethernet specification.   The offending vendor didn't follow the rules
> about timing.  But their test results looked much better than the
> competition.
>
> IMHO the root of the problem is that you can not assume much about what
> any software and hardware are doing.  There are lots of specs, standards,
> and mandates in RFCs or even governmental rules and regulations.  But
> lacking any kind of testing or certification, it's difficult to tell if
> those "standards" are actually being followed.  If someone, technical
> organization or government regulator, declares or legislates some protocol,
> algorithm, or behavior to be a required "standard", it should be
> accompanied by mechanisms and processes for testing to verify that the
> standard is implemented correctly and is actually used, and certification
> so that purchasers are informed.
>
> Jack Haverty
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