From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-x1135.google.com (mail-yw1-x1135.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 86F8E3CB37 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:20:09 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-yw1-x1135.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-604b23d91afso21021087b3.3 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 06:20:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1707574809; x=1708179609; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=p55ROwkxQw/V8Dku0hqt0h/OEQnbZilcPkKcaKN10+M=; b=J23X5cuHcI52k+jkAV3bK+BZUY/mA9quuFT2tPjkp5YoJ/Rifwb7CPVz/MI2YDi5lt eiEfcYc7T7TEQ38lbCoV0j6LtPyl5UxTfRd0/380gKwsk1AIS/41lHSVzYEFasWiYVNv tb5Y+Q6Wq8tOPoAOOFWhsd0vwLicJaEVjQVg/VM1vzOo6R8TcqOQ0Pc5O+LD3/vBPiIk Zuq5hKtWTuy0b+0/PBJITwCjUnRkeAicRilT6BGmwUjDYM7ofLsNIAm54jfy9M9YrhkH asaD5eBKGFCKYme2c829MYOEYO1fMCjAZIa+FGbdHHVTvzz9E+JALOQvYVdDmCnBIDOh leBA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1707574809; x=1708179609; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=p55ROwkxQw/V8Dku0hqt0h/OEQnbZilcPkKcaKN10+M=; b=Jus0g4TqfxqYgG8URSwEUf3oV9Hmwl4Fnh72JoNVxwvWWnl5bhOQNRAwLS3J5TBoqJ QjdPnL7Lxu7sarmK82CHx5RYkZrctoFtYuSWhLuF+l/PqbNziMR8WrGMqgAZ/KnPrk7u hTFJgre6wx6EhreMnTMq9348jXz8JHKSEgNgRKVUuG20Lxgho2j3nySUoiAP8jI82rPy jT0ekLcQoWE46nIZM++0mu4g8dUEAEE9+R6HyYGXGy8i5rrHS2xGsI812N4HWUrl3f6h lBTVvsa7cW40DBlr4l/yo+UfAz+pLWyYVbLIYACAUeDVrWScRJ+DbUkhbfvnN6OrTsBT CPEQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwaS0G8ySV5vilnaM1oMBfe3g3IFsEIV8rimU9k19qi25Mtbecj IppY4ISJeDCNQu2OAZeWV1c69FNqvu7wbDLpSAuJkmdNpaYG0CIYL+Dbi5mAC5S6FfUgESRrdDI cVCn7wJ+86tLIfD8RqqcUZEiFyFFpWfJ7lyo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGN1FNJeuI3S3O3sVWKH5Gd3mWOqi7JXZHVdpkr8/nElsHiSI+yUXvpHDR1HiUGZY1f8womWRZI6AlRLl4a0qU= X-Received: by 2002:a81:72c3:0:b0:5ff:828e:20a with SMTP id n186-20020a8172c3000000b005ff828e020amr1991235ywc.48.1707574808383; Sat, 10 Feb 2024 06:20:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: thejoff@gmail.com From: le berger des photons Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 15:20:02 +0100 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e19780061107bdfa" Subject: Re: [NNagain] doctorow nails it X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 14:20:09 -0000 --000000000000e19780061107bdfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable automated cars should do the trick regarding pedestrians who just assume that vehicles don't want to hit them because it costs too much. The automated ones don't want to or not want to hit you, they just hit you and then you probably will find yourself in a legal venue resembling the vaccine courts. On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 2:53=E2=80=AFAM Dave Taht via Nnagain < nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > From: > https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/19/bubblenomics/#pop > > =C2=A8Cruise was able to nonconsensually enlist the population of San > Francisco in an experimental murderbot development program thanks to > the vast sums of money sloshing around the industry. Some of this > money funds the inevitabilist narrative that self-driving cars are > coming, it's only a matter of when, not if, and so SF had better get > in the autonomous vehicle or get run over by the forces of history." > > Happy friday! > > -- > 40 years of net history, a couple songs: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > --000000000000e19780061107bdfa Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
automated cars should do the trick regarding pedestrians w= ho just assume that vehicles don't want to hit them because it costs to= o much.=C2=A0 The automated ones don't want to or not want to hit you,= =C2=A0 they just hit you and then you probably will find yourself in a lega= l venue resembling the vaccine courts.

On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 2:53=E2= =80=AFAM Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
From:
https://pluralistic.net/2023/12/19/bubblenomics/= #pop

=C2=A8Cruise was able to nonconsensually enlist the population of San
Francisco in an experimental murderbot development program thanks to
the vast sums of money sloshing around the industry. Some of this
money funds the inevitabilist narrative that self-driving cars are
coming, it's only a matter of when, not if, and so SF had better get in the autonomous vehicle or get run over by the forces of history."
Happy friday!

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40 years of net history, a couple songs:
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