From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oi1-x236.google.com (mail-oi1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 729073B29D for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 15:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi1-x236.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3b2b1af964dso2537552b6e.1 for ; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:07:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1697483274; x=1698088074; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=w6gLR/cQbYNCrmPsnEDSsU+jC6zjAW1rbYyFwxDyv2g=; b=EY6Nn43mBg2op5gFXzWF6WzCyQej7l6xkJEMN8SegVQK24t3wYXXb1M3tvLLBZSe31 UKLDZwVptPN5CtHPk32fRAHTNRD4pIDtIR/eKYVspwhnVoMXdozZLXXg0aIHaWKy5DXF dl0KR8wMc2jEt08SgjFzHDTCRlcBV7cZHX/rTL0/CIjETfEwZbkXUDoXy6hysA5v+Qxp AvA1KtDelaQ3Cv2M1NSj8Ku3rur99hHLnqCXAwF5sHT7Hy3l2l4LZ2akdbxXS7to1sLr zr+7yvtOdAcllu7qmswuZlBImMBYtUjE7PRiINfOazJSk50U0JYzhfgwDp49JoV1J8Di X+fw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1697483274; x=1698088074; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=w6gLR/cQbYNCrmPsnEDSsU+jC6zjAW1rbYyFwxDyv2g=; b=lqjCLGry3m5Hzu9vDtd1xg9f3atzf71OCDyUE335JxmiFcNyZl2W6ZDazMtdDQSoE8 ABGGjMXqb8+Zk3lUWNVOHUnT6x1wDHu2/FL9bSK5jjyjLfWb0Nf5d4SMKUCXv1slpgl8 kTnVv3g45fjtgPqJopeO4cFlFYadYUrTPdiBgVQZfZY85NjcMUqf5gE993+THHJhyNWi cqg2YhDsCl6thYSA+OKlzFsrMJlRZCw3z9eKkmzGyutrM9DTiydwZF2v3+X8ND9OLlBh WsNBkCTIC+fU7sq++Q2DSnEc7r3Uqi3XG/HAHkVSbhiP6xmVTdolLFiHCWME7C+McKRB LkQw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxAE2HaWIQIB2dt5zVC8vILv1MLl/PQgHELDoM3bTMA3r8sQPZ+ jX43EwrzEzZvztGu+ZGqV2Zf4w5dcS6EELNrNMPeOKk5jp8QIJE2 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGPRwjsVFAAGf1AXSgh4eQ+FeSmHAkTcmhRKgFn+lZdAOdtvTiSsidk54bvJT3wP+Dn0AFwlbe5wKeQ72UtXQ4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:e611:b0:1d6:cbcd:80f8 with SMTP id q17-20020a056870e61100b001d6cbcd80f8mr43410886oag.54.1697483274512; Mon, 16 Oct 2023 12:07:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: thejoff@mail.com From: le berger des photons Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 21:07:32 +0200 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_asp?= =?UTF-8?Q?ects_heard_this_time=21?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000096ef190607da1f50" Subject: Re: [NNagain] state broadband offices X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 19:07:55 -0000 --00000000000096ef190607da1f50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, you seem interesting and awake and aware of the capacities of your own mind. Mr. Chang, to whom you forwarded my message unfortunately for him has a closed mind, figures he knows it all and has seen it all. And I can tell you that his attitude is based on the brainwashing he's undergone which is completely invisible to him. Unfortunate for him. Thanks for trying. I see you're too busy to be interested in this yourself, or aren't interested for any of a multitude of other possible reasons. I make my living from my alternative network. Have been doing so for 20 years by being a minimalist regarding my knowledge. I find the study of how good folks get completely brainwashed by the New World ODOR to be more interesting. Mr. Chang has had his brain washed. I"m sorry for him. I haven't ever been able to help a one. On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:57=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Nnagain < nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:11=E2=80=AFAM le berger des photons via Nnagai= n > wrote: > > > > here is the best idea I've ever run into regarding getting artificial > network connectivity (as opposed to the inborn network we have and have > been programmed to ignore or had our pinneal glands poisoned) out to > everybody regardless of how few or many neighbors they have: > > > > https://patents.justia.com/inventor/sherwin-i-seligsohn > > The patents above have mostly expired, as has the fella who did them. > He woul have been interesting to talk to. > > > this went nowhere because the New World ODOR didn't want it to, as it > was only good for all of us and none of them. > > The x loon project tried to bring suborbital internet via balloon. > Great post-mortum here: > > > https://storage.googleapis.com/x-prod.appspot.com/files/The%20Loon%20Libr= ary.pdf > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 7:37=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Nnagain < > nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> > >> Since texas has been a focus, here is that broadband office, and many > others. > >> > >> https://broadband.money/state-broadband-offices/texas > >> director: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grconte/ > >> > >> I started this list in the hope that we could constructively engage > >> across professions, and try to propose ideas that made sense for > >> genuinely improving the internet. As of today... Many more (u)IXPs > >> seem like a huge win for humanity in general, and yet are seemingly > >> absent from the national agenda. So... ring up your broadband office, > >> use your linkedin, have a meeting, ask 'em to join this list for > >> constructive discussions? > >> > >> The website above (broadband.io) has mostly been involved with BEAD, > >> but now as it is moving into more deployment phase. It has often been > >> not fun seeing the earnest young faces on the friday AMAs there, (I > >> did one) also trying to do the right things for our internet, through > >> a sea of lobbyists and incomplete technical information. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Oct 30: > https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html > >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Nnagain mailing list > >> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Nnagain mailing list > > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > > > > -- > Oct 30: > https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain > --00000000000096ef190607da1f50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave,=C2=A0 you seem interesting and awake and aware = of the capacities of your own mind.

Mr. Chang, to = whom you forwarded my message unfortunately for him has a closed mind,=C2= =A0 figures he knows it all and has seen it all.

A= nd I can tell you that his attitude is based on the brainwashing he's u= ndergone which is completely invisible to him.

Unf= ortunate for him.

Thanks for trying.=C2=A0 I see y= ou're too busy to be interested in this yourself,=C2=A0 or aren't i= nterested for any of a multitude of other possible reasons.

<= /div>
I make my living from my alternative network.=C2=A0 Have been doi= ng so for 20 years by being a minimalist regarding my knowledge.
=
I find the study of how good folks get completely brainwashe= d by the New World ODOR=C2=A0 to be more interesting.

<= div>Mr.=C2=A0 Chang has had his brain washed.=C2=A0 I"m sorry for him.= =C2=A0 I haven't ever been able to help a one.



On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:57=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Nnagain &l= t;nnagai= n@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:11=E2=80=AFAM le berger d= es photons via Nnagain
<nnag= ain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> here is the best idea I've ever run into regarding getting artific= ial network connectivity (as opposed to the inborn network we have and have= been programmed to ignore or had our pinneal glands poisoned) out to every= body regardless of how few or many neighbors they have:
>
> https://patents.justia.com/inventor/sher= win-i-seligsohn

The patents above have mostly expired, as has the fella who did them.
He woul have been interesting to talk to.

> this went nowhere because the New World ODOR didn't want it to, as= it was only good for all of us and none of them.

The x loon project tried to bring suborbital internet via balloon.
Great post-mortum here:

https://storage.goog= leapis.com/x-prod.appspot.com/files/The%20Loon%20Library.pdf


>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 7:37=E2=80=AFPM Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain@list= s.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> Since texas has been a focus, here is that broadband office, and m= any others.
>>
>> https://broadband.money/state-broadban= d-offices/texas
>> director: https://www.linkedin.com/in/grconte/
>>
>> I started this list in the hope that we could constructively engag= e
>> across professions, and try to propose ideas that made sense for >> genuinely improving the internet. As of today... Many more (u)IXPs=
>> seem like a huge win for humanity in general, and yet are seemingl= y
>> absent from the national agenda. So... ring up your broadband offi= ce,
>> use your linkedin, have a meeting, ask 'em to join this list f= or
>> constructive discussions?
>>
>> The website above (broadband.io) has mostly been involved with BEAD,=
>> but now as it is moving into more deployment phase. It has often b= een
>> not fun seeing the earnest young faces on the friday AMAs there, (= I
>> did one) also trying to do the right things for our internet, thro= ugh
>> a sea of lobbyists and incomplete technical information.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Oct 30: https://netdevc= onf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html
>> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nnagain mailing list
>> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagai= n
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nnagain mailing list
> Nna= gain@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain



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