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Reed" Cc: "Livingood, Jason" , "cerowrt-commits@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Frantisek Borsik , "bloat-ietf@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Herbert Wolverson , Make-Wifi-fast , "cerowrt-users@lists.bufferbloat.net" , libreqos , Jeremy Austin via Rpm , "Frantisek (Frank) Borsik" , =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back=21_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspect?= =?UTF-8?Q?s_heard_this_time=21?= , "codel-wireless@lists.bufferbloat.net" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , bloat , Cake List , "codel@lists.bufferbloat.net" , Vint Cerf , Dave Taht via Starlink , =?UTF-8?Q?Robert_Chac=C3=B3n?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 06 Jun 2025 06:47:04 -0400 Subject: Re: [NNagain] =?utf-8?b?W01ha2Utd2lmaS1mYXN0XSBbQ2FrZV0gW0Jsb2F0XSBJ?= =?utf-8?q?n_loving_memory_of_Dave_T=C3=A4ht_=3C3?= X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 09:45:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 13:45:45 +0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2025 09:45:59 -0000 > > 2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his contribu= tions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some other mon= eyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid Katie Hafn= er to write the text that later turned into her book "When Wizards Stay Up = Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet pioneers who work= ed for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.) Dave wasn't the kind= of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History Museum or the ACM or IEE= E. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know of. He's in the category o= f folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz= - people I think really changed the way we think about computing and inter= networking, but who won't be in the official histories. He did not fit in a typical corporate culture especially in his later years. He got a certain amount of respect at the IETF.