From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EADCF3B29D for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 11:14:33 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1699978472; x=1700583272; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=IfSmoP16zwNY7cLFbB8A9Qrjzp4T0tysH1n+XfR1C1k=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=BX809mA/tO/71JJqzAnBhDXJzwOvaYGpU1nFPMNU1tFSRscgXotrgxo55zZ+U10A G7heRcqNPgBqJCV+1IAPAI02VF1yVtrs8AX6RDSHOQXvzKxnuO/Avr/cAKdiCo8Jt D3Sq+h/mZyT3cdWE+hbZVm8n6CAZth46GD1URB1OkIBbsllpMnky/gzjt0HA4/xgu Sv+xU2TpdquNN2kXRmmRqi3cJHU8I0dAodSQdUWUrILDXJd0nKlg8wrcoXnviG4UL 3gR4bClu7MaKL+fA5Rf82N+ww4qPDeIWqZh0kjtiOOUbfJiBR0ZNO8hwpryLHuChP IQoZQfeUTzKhNiTSKQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([208.115.85.96]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MV67y-1qumpK0kqM-00SAVY for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2023 17:14:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 11:14:26 -0500 From: Sebastian Moeller To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=B4s_mak?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----ZNBJ7T3W85YDO7WSB4Q66MBCOSW4RD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:NpK5dF+z6i+vr0KFthpW1BAetI559Fd9eXh8o9jp9VTAYzKodeA uPZYX/uwLNo9BqnvBxypTefrzfbdaGu2OdxgkXTndBExBC9CVx13dZ6BfjDWYm2QLG0kG4P C5NllSGQPjPc5uI19kbtj1DQwSMhF48SxED6SBJHtexmVtdRus1PV3fD01AbzSxEZf9AEW3 pyFm5uiXZDIbfhPK7XXnQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:vjX9PxVZQMA=;pQcNMrspFLCPT7zMeJaxkAx2bAc IXZd1lVBOtgj9mspJg916HuWEa3eqcoumuu51xyWEfdxb/3hLVJedJEnUUL21E6pcMk/n6RZu spBCx3t7JVQAxX/T943bKTmUeYRVIUtcZcB8FGi61Vn6sxdKU3R56bwxqN44Z96LzewHqCkFY ML0jyor8X9uJsJgmwyw0AwNk4MuiprNJokQvFpPOsT1LVMlVJjVWxC5fTgVQhy9aZWrn3m8hm 9+sNJ8oxMOrCEyXi32JUcRK59NESMeWpwW58VOKsh3GbAetkXxuYMxeOhesRn9jBgXEyfEo9h hvaD8vGNxNqknFrkhvQXmALn+4shuQdj2MoL0sOSIODboQCYm1aDf4jgKrr3h/YwxAYh5jEEh 8cqKUbdUmkzl/BKk4DA7o9rcQa0g7y1HiAdbzrM7vI/aomRLvsqMV57njwtvz5rzQugvjPPwA BRNyh6eoAtKCd+LzFNY0znaQ5OADRkldYQn0lAKcOIMK7sDxLAq+0JQkZN1AK3pUOV7oVnMl+ waIUzQKln7i7Mj77+mjB3ExfTNByw8WR6lY/HkGl2PmBM9iJASJODygZlp3bVX+vkcWH0S3JZ LXlGCY4Cx5MqCKxj5EkSZOf+U7Hmno3yFLJrYpONgjqhgmlFDvqWLA/KW4DXHTddpK8Ze9wvf zq2lQhVxtXnur8yA8bLr6c0+s3BepNSPZpHI0YuFg/ydlcri2HWVGdjajaQoS7j+hviNK1CV1 2atvft7Nl/rfQBuCmFY9FZa6SIWlVXTcf7K+GqWHofdxsrJOip5xVTuxIlRuJO56jlsY9NGm7 FPwQzOaLc9LxroRlKnsv2QWt+57v/8mC7unYn7nro9MTVys7hP1sgKP8hmIft+1Mfc/KgoCho r3/QZ2RF3p/EVeY1CqeeJXtfKbs76351CXJvFd2ZPMt43y/B/nvhyf7kyT8r1KQ2S8MaR7RPz 8u5FJVkDjaaZc/WpBz6cWfWh/C8= Subject: Re: [NNagain] FCC NOI due dec 1 on broadband speed standards X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 16:14:34 -0000 ------ZNBJ7T3W85YDO7WSB4Q66MBCOSW4RD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I guess I now am prepared to upgrade my home network into the ~1Gbps class,= before inviting 1000 engineers over ;) Joking aside, how representative is this ratio of users to peak traffic fo= r what you know about residential users? I am not looking for anything more= than a very coarse replay, like same order of magnitude or not ;) On 14 November 2023 10:46:17 GMT-05:00, "Livingood, Jason via Nnagain" wrote: >On the subject of how much bandwidth does one household need, here's a fu= n stat for you=2E > > >At the IETF=E2=80=99s 118th meeting last week (Nov 4 =E2=80=93 10, 2023), there were over 1,000 engineer= s in attendance=2E At peak there were 870 devices connected to the WiFi net= work=2E Peak bandwidth usage: > > * Downstream peak ~750 Mbps > * Upstream ~250 Mbps > > > >From my pre-meeting Twitter poll (https://twitter=2Ecom/jlivingood/status= /1720060429311901873): > >[A screenshot of a chat Description automatically generated] --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------ZNBJ7T3W85YDO7WSB4Q66MBCOSW4RD Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I guess I now am prepared to upgrade my home= network into the ~1Gbps class, before inviting 1000 engineers over ;)
<= br>Joking aside, how representative is this ratio of users to peak traffic = for what you know about residential users? I am not looking for anything mo= re than a very coarse replay, like same order of magnitude or not ;)
<= br>
On 14 November 2023 10:= 46:17 GMT-05:00, "Livingood, Jason via Nnagain" <nnagain@lists=2Ebufferb= loat=2Enet> wrote:

On the subject of how much bandwidth does one ho= usehold need, here's a fun stat for you=2E

 

At t= he IETF=E2=80=99s 118th meeting last week (Nov 4 =E2=80=93 10, 2023), there were over 1,000 engineers in atten= dance=2E At peak there were 870 devices connected to the WiFi network=2E Pe= ak bandwidth usage:

  • Downstream peak ~750 Mbps
  • Upstream ~250 Mbps

 

From my pre-meeting Twitter poll (https://twitter= =2Ecom/jlivingood/status/1720060429311901873):

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