From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [206.220.231.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 590163CB37 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:04:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from secmail.pch.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TgqyG5pRGz4xJN8 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 16:04:54 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: secmail.pch.net (amavisd-new); dkim=pass reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=pch.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pch.net; h= x-mailer:to:references:message-id:date:in-reply-to:from:subject :mime-version:content-type; s=secmail_dkim; t=1708646694; x= 1711238695; bh=CE9LFTa8YdfWe5Jz+c3eyvEjloIAF21x3Gwt4eKW6HY=; b=A 4DgnmiGIGorV/D1P857QkTj8K8+1yHl9Z3LbL1APIodbq5blwwsAEfmU79Fh1pax YcOyfB2X6gfKr9suBNB8Er969ZYBDKlqf6KDHkQeYoxFcIP+hFH/Jy73V2GEfXnV X3BvE69TCjBKlvtX73794I4dMgEkXWwMzEhZvCq+qmEwI+KXv++GaZjfKi3Scw7g EORJwZpPHtwwof0f/BZaE6L6pUunN5XeXo9mnwutgusb4mEYjSH763+JMoY/RquJ Il0pNRq75aISNezlFKWH/bphByObeKNk0TSJ7ZYrnXRIqLahXqTCOwnOx0noLgJI nlNtsKons6Bj74wp17+Ow== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at secmail.pch.net Received: from secmail.pch.net ([127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id Ztzs-JSW0YGp for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 16:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (itv-02 [69.166.14.6]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4TgqyF4sX5z4xVTj; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 16:04:53 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_47E89F1D-EA8B-425C-956E-AA20E70034E7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.171.1.1\)) From: Bill Woodcock In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 01:04:51 +0100 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_as?= =?utf-8?Q?pects_heard_this_time!?= , Brent Legg Message-Id: References: <71924C54-A1AA-421F-B9A3-738DC04E8412@pch.net> To: Dave Cohen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.171.1.1) Subject: Re: [NNagain] The Whys of the Wichita IXP Project X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 00:04:55 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_47E89F1D-EA8B-425C-956E-AA20E70034E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 23, 2024, at 01:03, Dave Cohen wrote: > I think this landscape is changing. These days I=E2=80=99m only = focused on a couple of specific markets, but in those markets we are = seeing both 1) a proliferation of IXs either adding nodes in new = facilities or getting connectivity out to them to provide at least some = capability and 2) datacenter providers, particularly more = large-deployment-oriented facilities, seeking to attract IXPs in their = sites or drive connectivity out to them as part of their own = connectivity offerings. How does any of that constitute a change? -Bill --Apple-Mail=_47E89F1D-EA8B-425C-956E-AA20E70034E7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEm6XJ0FdpKWJHso4lb6RwSyiLf4cFAmXX4SMACgkQb6RwSyiL f4cJlRAAp3ooKdEBzxIbat8u9QYySrQ4oabf3wIbEl1WI9jSHZOyQ0fu2Tjyj+Ip rq8Lofqz/qymEQtd0AePeDU7qYkG6g42M71BoktsE4ITxRLoSJ7z3pIdo8OAwH/a XOEDi1WiQJnBMjQZ5Vc/xmulwH0flo5NGjkTZpoveGgK2c88HLZOOl8S5vFnv71q eDavkFKqeeqZXvqEoTiVxOaPOIj+P2SOrB/sqRkJIg2nZjE3Gr8Yo/MMDZiirCqY wDCeyraWpK+PFcaDbth7qV8zL6Uwxf/u6bIQv+7ZBzBtK94mI0Rra13v43zfYgH+ BUg6rETzxW6EpDZBc+vA4Qvws4PSVmVvoNW+cQ1uwrFy8jOMp4YtWYZGz//bDfut jBJvG9OWF4XVtsJV2XCcRa8DhycB0DBsbaoeP2QITQt7KPx2dULhebyXM+TDEwdr yjljVrLqJtV9lRBhzocjd+w1YlPCXisOHM57U8cwPPWCrSK+aMFDdh6hWERxBBQx joasl45jAK6LyxM7S/OwVgGJx5E/H8OX896PM99X9OcjYIQT8F4FT4mGB3mJyKO+ uiZ0Ri86vk8JDds4ONkmxfrYjW0QW6Rina1KKz2GBp9b5U3ANOGXgPIzK6SFJxBP B5l/Tgmi3y/xX6nDvbUWqgB/aMKyADZrGYHlgKg9Gmq3Qc/qeGs= =wKIy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_47E89F1D-EA8B-425C-956E-AA20E70034E7--