From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [206.220.231.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DFDB93B29D for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 08:25:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from secmail.pch.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Thng31JBfz4xVVh for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 05:25:03 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: secmail.pch.net (amavisd-new); dkim=pass reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=pch.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pch.net; h= x-mailer:to:references:message-id:date:in-reply-to:from:subject :mime-version:content-type; s=secmail_dkim; t=1708781102; x= 1711373103; bh=JQpCBFZXHt1MXKvk1EnCtwXr/KkFtb7qP4lqqRI3ulw=; b=1 97ViPRkcthrjC9KGrXxTBn3qArPS+Yq5HT02DIOH+sabGU+gIDKbFpAG109nIgOR iVgqQvZ0gkLTicAhtFE+p4qDLIPmBnhBl872m9QHWWF5J6Vo7U5v4G01uXZ5FCps dzMAH8Sx+6HMZ48rrYkBe/pmJ5/XQhXhlD644oQvC8hiZndzjy70tNAAotwVjYtG GfWbwdkfP3IkpKpzTcqWhQo8LjOQ6F7khgPg7zervI0oTeLR8bKfR1Kwqbt7/z0m Tnc8Vvs8BpYA1tw4WA999YzHSDQi628fHyPN6o3P7ggN1E01310Bu7T+FDskhN67 D4djwate0+LWpBnZYdz4g== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at secmail.pch.net Received: from secmail.pch.net ([127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id VywnlqMAmUHA for ; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 05:25:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (itv-02 [69.166.14.6]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Thng173n7z4xVTf; Sat, 24 Feb 2024 05:25:01 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_49E14A59-EFED-4AE8-8E58-E16F03E4FD14"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.171.1.1\)) From: Bill Woodcock In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 14:24:59 +0100 Message-Id: References: <2FE6AC99-172D-4948-8277-AD4316054E3D@gmail.com> To: =?utf-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_as?= =?utf-8?Q?pects_heard_this_time!?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.171.1.1) Subject: Re: [NNagain] The Whys of the Wichita IXP Project X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 13:25:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_49E14A59-EFED-4AE8-8E58-E16F03E4FD14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 24, 2024, at 14:12, Fearghas Mckay via Nnagain = wrote: > On 24 Feb 2024 at 12:27:09, Dave Taht wrote: >> Who can fund more IXPs? The internet society has a 50k set-asied. > The member ISPs perhaps ? Seems to work in a lot of other countries. Exactly. It works fine in the US, as well, as we can see from ~130 = IXPs, of which only the original four got subsidies. Money is never the problem for startup IXPs. It=E2=80=99s always = location and governance. -Bill --Apple-Mail=_49E14A59-EFED-4AE8-8E58-E16F03E4FD14 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEm6XJ0FdpKWJHso4lb6RwSyiLf4cFAmXZ7isACgkQb6RwSyiL f4e6ww/8CYcxefFvlXkVavIn9YHdcppevHV15QQECAY2c4a+oydwNkwAmBGe/bfW 7O9KuAbr7V9jImRK2VNGXUNTiorCpU0X4J262T7mSzMQNBEmBAuLBXLVyxQVHn5r 1vk8FTA/pGxW2zyjTOdRlkEN/rcFEVFDb+j2Q42ZWCWaTF/lgt/HW38hDQOWd9oN GGkuFSmP4bzTehzQJIcTkG+rexiEhU+aw4EOTy8vpYrjHpNx7YqM2Z0KobPifOvR ad7EOas8ew2ZmyJWo5ljMD4pcDifPa6pWGPIFFhm0CbAG+FZhf4xgBU3ZuRJ3TGd x+zPzm5+4qCq0LOQbvn9MYKbKSoAV07591PpTiH4+BfBuvgTu6nLXoxvUPrLAT4i uDFSOjuFmhjkMS571y2xJAzRwN6qyAcdMb6FYbjmwrP+hq6/nFFv4R9S+wPuM7OX 3brE4ddJd0sMeJwYu3Bp1I9ZowL8dLt/FRt26ncxCXtc53+leJ4aqhclYkaD8qnH Zw2faB3szhVO/87bdswCEac2u0GoAx1Mtwg0Rflc1f6JKLPbAqIo2aIdVwX2+thY O51j6F4Cn39z3IKeHb/V14g4uUDLhcJgRJzs2IkSFJfaFIQBQCOKguW1LadpcHck 39Zx4xDg++dcORoHDvUsQtgR32QG0wWU+If3czgBUZXx51AxX1Q= =sydf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_49E14A59-EFED-4AE8-8E58-E16F03E4FD14--