I share the same concern about lack of personal communication, especially given that less than 30% of the “what” that is communicated between people is contained in the words exchanged … more than 70% is found in the rest including facial expression, tone of voice, hand gestures, etc.. Oh well … so now I am stuck with just using words, so you will only be getting 30% or less of my intention :-(:-( Be that as it may, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you all! May the new year bring peace, joy, and good health to all! Cheers, RR -----Original Message----- From: Nnagain [mailto:nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Dave Taht via Nnagain Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 6:06 AM To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time! Cc: Dave Taht Subject: [NNagain] science and reading scores peaked in 2009 and 2012 Not that slashdot is a particularly good source, but I do read the atlantic... https://news.slashdot.org/story/23/12/23/0544206/are-phones-making-the-world s-students-dumber In my case I was just on two American planes where absolutely everyone was on their phone, tablet, or laptop. In one walk to the bathroom at the back of the plane, in the middle of the afternoon, there were three conversations going on, about 5% people working, the rest all watching a different show (not a single shared experience). I sat next to someone from an VR company that did project management there who spent the entire trip texting (with TWO phones) over the viasat service ($15/hr) to dozens and dozens of people. Max time off the phone was no more than 15 seconds, long enough to open a cracker. She seemed to never have an internet issue (though with all the multitasking perhaps the latencies were hidden). I finally got a word in edgewise on landing... I had great hope she knew what a packet was, but she didn´t. She grokked "latency", had not heard of bufferbloat. The new movie Maestro is really excellent, btw. I watched some of it from between the seats ahead of me, with my head otherwise down trying to block out all the internet access around me. While I worry all the more about all we have done to humanity´s ability to communicate physically and with strangers I wish y'all a merry christmas and a happy new year, with your families! -- 40 years of net history, a couple songs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos _______________________________________________ Nnagain mailing list Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain