From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3268D3B29D; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 13:24:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) by bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 531981B289; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 10:24:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bobcat.rjmcmahon.com 531981B289 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rjmcmahon.com; s=bobcat; t=1699727095; bh=hQ42ViTTSfg9c2u5TWRQtHvXTwyxstjbhKR4KobYmkw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=TXmmD8ANEhZkfH/BoBxRB+HTVVU148hQf/HVyRorB8PsYDIZaexQGK2kRu/TZzq4Z u3xFCLk2bAjlY0+nqCoM1DXRwodticg1vFKMSQEnByJazzAsl9aa9snWy+L2aedFud xsk/gySOrCtJzKQ/zCsfPDiZKf9a+zfymL6TxbII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 10:24:55 -0800 From: rjmcmahon To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_a?= =?UTF-8?Q?spects_heard_this_time!?= Cc: Dave Taht , libreqos In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: X-Sender: rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [NNagain] FCC NOI due dec 1 on broadband speed standards X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 18:24:56 -0000 Thanks for this. It helps a lot. I think a unified voice from this group around the metrics could be quite good. I do want to make sure iperf 2 covers this in a simple manner and very well so we in the chip business can catch issues very early in the process life cycle: Regardless of the benchmark that we select for fixed broadband service, we believe it is valuable for fixed providers to report on a wide range of download speeds and, in addition, multiple upload speeds for each download speed. We invite commenters to suggest what they consider relevant combinations of benchmark download and upload speeds that we should report for both fixed and mobile broadband service. As part of their suggestions, we request that commenters consider the availability of reliable and comprehensive data and suggest available sources. Bob > https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/FCC-23-89A1.pdf > > Obviously I am going to have to weigh in on section 26, at least. I > would rather be writing code...