[Bismark-devel] about ready to do another build

Fri May 20 19:29:51 EDT 2011

1. Once you get real DNS, we want to also want to do redirection to the nearest measurement server for measurements.projectbismark.net, etc.
2.  babel, yep.  though it's 1:30a here and I might not try it tonight... last night, the faulty ethernet cable deprived me of sleep.  but, I do really want to try this out.  sounds awesome.  will look for you on IRC in any case.

-Nick

On May 21, 2011, at 1:27 AM, Dave Taht wrote:

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> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Nick Feamster <feamster at cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
> We actually have a test exactly like this in bismark active.  I'll give it a try.
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> Remember: people have data caps here. Another complication. :-)
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> Well, yea, but I wanted a good number to bake into the build which I'm hovering over the build button for...
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> Two questions:
> 1. What do you want lab.projectbismark.net pointing to?  I'll update the dreaded godaddy until DNS lands.
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> A problem is that the routers register themselves in DNS (or will), and we need bind9 for that.
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> I hope to have real dns after meeting with netops monday.
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> 2. How do you run the babel multihop stuff?  Can I run it in this build?  I'm in a fairly big house with *zero* wireless connectivity downstairs and would like to try it out.
> I would like  Host <----wireless----> WNDR Relay <---wireless-->WNDR Relay <---wired ---> Modem
> Not sure how to set up the relays.
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> Yes, you can do that. I'm tickled you're willing to try it...
> There are a couple ways, but I'd prefer to get you through it in irc?
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> Thanks,
> -Nick
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> On May 21, 2011, at 12:47 AM, Dave Taht wrote:
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> > A much longer test would be to download this
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> > wget -4 http://gw.lab.bufferbloat.net/capetown/capetown-wndr3700v2/OpenWrt-ImageBuilder-ar71xx-for-Linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
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> > while pinging somewhere fairly close by.
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> > Over your wired and wireless connection(s)...
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> > Over multiple downloads, too...
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> > Sorry to make you work so hard. I am SO OVERJOYED to get some data on this problem, however.....
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> > (yes, I'll change it to lab.bismarkproject.net as soon as DNS lands)
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> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Nick Feamster <feamster at cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
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> > On May 21, 2011, at 12:28 AM, Dave Taht wrote:
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> > > And btw, what are the results of a speedtest from your location without QoS on?
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> > Have run it 2x now.
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> > I see about 850 kbps down and 400 kbps up.
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> > The default upload setting is abusive.
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> > Sorry. Nicaragua typically had 64k-128k up. Took my best guess.
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> > > With QoS on, set to up/dl values within a few percentage points of that (and the overhead calculation disabled)
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> > And with QoS set to say 840/380, with the overhead calculation disabled? Should be about 15% below that for a long bulk transfer. Can get closer...
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> > Please note that setting these values on the basis of one datapoint in a majorish city will result in bad values deeper in the country....
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> > Helps to also ping somewhere at the same time of the test to see your latencies start to go to heck as you get closer to the "edge". You'll see it start to jitter... then go wildly late... and at extreme values, tcp/ip will start to malfunction as per the bufferbloat diagrams...
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> > I'd LOVE for a few tcpdumps of stuff like this, from where you are.....
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> > > I can bake a better default into the next build, but I was figuring you'd be lucky to be gettting 1000 down....
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> > > I want to note that according to your previous study, the first 30 seconds of data need to be discarded in order for a speedtest to be valid, and speedtest.net doesn't do that...
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> > Yep yep... though I don't think PowerBoost is enabled over here.  Although, we'll find out. :-)
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> > -Nick
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