[Bloat] philosophical question

Dave Taht dave.taht at gmail.com
Mon May 30 08:25:25 EDT 2011


On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:24 PM, George B. <georgeb at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, say I have a network with no over subscription in my net.


I'd love to see one of those. Can I get on it?


> I have
> 10G to the internet but am only using about 2G of that.  This is the
> server side of a network talking to millions of clients.  The clients
> in this case are on "lossy" wireless networks where packet loss is not
> an indication of congestion so much as it is an indication that the
> client moved 15 feet behind a pole and had poor network connectivity
> for a few minutes.
>
> Or is using multicast.


> The idea being that in today's internet, packet loss is not a good
> indication of congestion.  Often it just means that the radio signal
> has been briefly interrupted.  What I need is something that can tell
> the difference between real congestion and radio loss.  ECN seems to
> be the way forward in that respect.
>
> Yes. When it works. Which is rarely.


> But assuming my network, as a server of content is not over
> subscribed, what would you suggest as the best qdisc for such a
> traffic profile? In other words, I am looking at this from the server
> aspect rather than from the client aspect.
>
>
Ah, ok. This was discussed in this loooong thread:

https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/bloat/2011-March/000272.html

Some form of fair queuing distributes the load to the ultimate end nodes
better.

As for which packet scheduler to choose for that? Don't know, I'm just
trying to get to where we can actually test stuff on the edge gateways at
this point.


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