[Bloat] Question about Buffer Bloat and Verizon Fios

[Stephen Hemminger]

On Wed, 08 Apr 2015 09:56:48 -0700
Alex Elsayed <eternaleye at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave Taht wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 5:05 AM,  <games at djlatino.com> wrote:
> <snip>
> >> Reason is Verizon has a combo router/modem.
> > 
> > They CAN be configured in a bridge mode if you desire, but you can
> > usually just put cero in front of it to do everything else
> > (shaping/wifi) and be golden.
> > 
> > See the intertubes for how to switch to bridging verizon gear (if you
> > want to). It is overly complex.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> There's actually even more nuance to it than that:
> 
> FiOS (although, I thought that was owned by Frontier now? It certainly was 
> when I had it up here [.wa.us]) with TV service requires MoCA (Multimedia 
> over CoAxial), and thus requires the use of their (awful) combined 
> router/wifi/MoCA bridge that connects to the ONT (Optical Network Terminal) 
> over MoCA. In that case, you need to set it up to bridge to your own router 
> behind it, &c.
> 
> However, if you are using internet/phone-only FiOS service, you can get the 
> service technician to hook your router directly to the ONT via Ethernet, as 
> it supports both.
> 
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I am using the weird double bridge through the FioS router into a
Netgear WNDR3800 and it is stable. The issue is that the Actiontec
box does not bring everything back up after power cycle (so it is on
a UPS).

An alternative is to use a pair of MOCA modems to do MOCA to Ethernet
(and back to get to the DVR box). But it requires a bunch of changing
of MOCA frequencies; so I haven't gotten around to setting it up.