[Bloat] ECN issues

[Ingemar Johansson S]

Hi

And thanks all for the info both on and off list. I believe that I have enough information. The main objective for me was to get an understanding how serious the issues that various boxes in the middle (e.g NATs/FWs ) mess with the ECN bits really is. Seems to me, based on the info I received thus far that this is becoming more and more an non-issue ?. 

Realized that I have seen the below paper before,  somehow I mixed it up with the older paper, have to blame it on my own teflon-memory ... Thanks for refreshing my memory

/Ingemar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mirja Kühlewind [mailto:mirja.kuehlewind at tik.ee.ethz.ch]
> Sent: den 25 juni 2015 19:31
> To: Ingemar Johansson S
> Cc: bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net; iccrg at irtf.org; Bob Briscoe
> (bob.briscoe at bt.com); ietf at trammell.ch; Dave Taht
> (dave.taht at gmail.com); cheshire at apple.com
> Subject: Re: ECN issues
> 
> Hi Ingemar,
> 
> there is a newer paper we published last year (and gave a quick presentation
> at the last ICCRG meeting):
> 
> http://wan.poly.edu/pam2015/papers/4.pdf
> 
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-iccrg-1.pdf
> 
> In the mean time we did more measurements using BitTorrent clients
> instead. The results are very similar. We might be able to quickly present
> some new results at the next session (if the session takes place and there is
> still space).
> 
> Does this help or are you looking for some specific information?
> 
> Mirja
> 
> 
> > Am 24.06.2015 um 13:34 schrieb Ingemar Johansson S
> <ingemar.s.johansson at ericsson.com>:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I wonder, is there any new data around that gives any ideas how large the
> issues with ECN really are ?.
> >
> > Issues that I am interested are ECN black holes and faulty remarking
> > of ECN fields
> >
> > The last one I have seen is this paper by Mirja, Brian and Sebastian
> > Neuner
> > http://www.ict-mplane.eu/sites/default/files/public/publications/311ec
> > ndeployment.pdf
> >
> > Is there any new data available ?.
> >
> > /Ingemar
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