[Bloat] Bufferbloat and the policy debate on packet loss in nanog

[Jim Gettys]

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Aaron Wood <woody77 at gmail.com> wrote:

> But until the silicon vendors update _their_ forks of OpenWRT,
> commercially available home routers won't have these benefits.  Because the
> home router market is dominated by packaged reference designs from one of a
> very small number of companies that actually make all the chipsets (Dave, I
> know you know this, I'm mostly just choir-preaching myself).
>

​I was talking to one of the major chipset vendors just this last Thursday.​


​
We have to fork-lift upgrade all of these devices, ASAP.

And change how we build/maintain these systems, and do business in embedded
systems.

See my Berkman Center talk here:

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2014/06/gettys​


​We'll be struggling with the policies issues the rest of our lives (which
is why I presented to the Berkman Center).

Also read Dan Geer's policy piece in Lawfare the Lawfare blog.

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2014/04/heartbleed-as-metaphor/

Bruce Schneier's piece in Wired on the IOT is also very good, but aimed at
a mass audience.

I will be publishing and updated version of the talk very soon; the
situation is yet more perilous since June, and my explanations clearer.

Jim

​


> -Aaron
>
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There's nothing new here, but it was a nice rant to get out of my system:
>>
>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.nanog/128201
>>
>> Of late, I have been taking a page from Linus Torvalds' playbook, in
>> realizing that "on the internet, no-one can hear you being subtle",
>> and BOY, am I done with that.
>>
>> --
>> Dave Täht
>> Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again!
>>
>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/107942175615993706558/posts/TVX3o84jjmb
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